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		<description><![CDATA[In my previous discussion of Christine Korsgaard&#8217;s prologue to The Sources of Normativity, I left out one significant feature of the story she tells of Western philosophy. This is the reason &#8211; related to the basic account of excellence of obligation &#8211; why Christianity proved philosophically more powerful than Greek thought. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/value-beyond-obligation/">previous discussion</a> of Christine Korsgaard&#8217;s prologue to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=x233_0hM2OkC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=sources+of+normativity&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=DE-OQaOBrN&#038;sig=ctCmJClXQA5vrt43h7VxBrwfWdE&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=yWJtTKjoFoSKlwf0s_zYDQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=3&#038;ved=0CCIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">The Sources of Normativity</a>, I left out one significant feature of the story she tells of Western philosophy. This is the reason &#8211; related to the basic account of excellence of obligation &#8211; why Christianity proved philosophically more powerful than Greek thought. </p>
<p>On Korsgaard&#8217;s account of Greek metaphysics (à la Plato and Aristotle), goodness is a feature of reality, one more fundamental in a sense than the particular physical objects that appear before us. Perfect form is more real than imperfect matter. This is true whether, with Plato, those forms exist in a world apart from matter, or, with Aristotle, they exist within matter as its potential and <i>telos</i>.</p>
<p>But if that&#8217;s the case, Korsgaard notes, then the logical question is: why <i>aren&#8217;t</i> things perfect already? We normally think of theodicy &#8211; the problem of suffering and responses to it &#8211; as primarily a problem for Abrahamic traditions. If God is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, it&#8217;s hard to see how there can be suffering in the world (though it&#8217;s less hard to see <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/could-we-please-stop-talking-about-the-problem-of-evil/">how there can be evil</a>). But broaden the question a bit &#8211; make it &#8220;the problem of bad&#8221; &#8211; and it appears elsewhere too. For Śaṅkara&#8217;s Advaita Vedānta, in which reality is pure knowledge, it&#8217;s a conundrum to think how there can be so much ignorance. </p>
<p>And Korsgaard seems to provocatively suggest that the Christians were <i>better</i> equipped to handle the problem than the Greeks &#8211; connecting to her account of how an ethics of excellence was superseded by an ethics of obligation. <span id="more-1503"></span> The ethics of excellence, in Plato and Aristotle, remains teleological: things naturally tend toward perfection. But if this is so, how do we account for people&#8217;s all too evident <i>imperfection</i>? Aristotle tells us that a person who is well brought up will tend toward excellence; but what of those of us who aren&#8217;t? Korsgaard claims that Aristotle doesn&#8217;t say very much about them, but notes that he does say they require <i>law</i> &#8211; thus possibly laying the seeds for the fusion of Greek thought with Jewish law in Christianity. Alasdair MacIntyre, I think, would suggest that Aristotle&#8217;s teleology as it stood was rooted in the Greek <i>polis</i>, where standards of excellence were largely agreed on and socially embedded; in such a situation, most people <i>would</i> be well brought up. But as the <i>polis</i> fragmented into empire, the well-brought-up began to seem like exceptions rather than rules. And so with Greek and Roman empire we enter a world where law and obligation, rather than excellence, are the fundamental moral concepts &#8211; to the point where even a committed Aristotelian like Thomas Aquinas will express ethics above all in terms of natural <i>law</i>. (This story of the transition from Greece to Christianity, I think, parallels <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/james-doull-and-the-history-of-ethical-motivation/">the one I have attributed to James Doull</a>.)</p>
<p>Korsgaard, as I noted last time, comes out of this story noting that the modern world is more like the Christian than the Greek in a most fundamental respect. Since we see matter and not form as the most fundamental reality, we no longer see goodness and value at the heart of things. And so we can no longer accept an Aristotelian account on which things (including people) tend naturally toward their perfection; people, on a modern scientific metaphysics as well as a Christian one, are fundamentally fallen, flawed, imperfect. </p>
<p>Still, the Christian world, like the Greek, remains laden with value, with God&#8217;s goodness at its very heart. And so the problem of badness and imperfection &#8211; already a problem in Plato and Aristotle, at least on Korsgaard&#8217;s account &#8211; becomes even bigger in Christianity than it did with the Greeks.  I really don&#8217;t think monotheists ever successfully resolved the problem of suffering, to the point that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/trusting-in-man-trusting-in-god/">if an omnipotent God or creator God existed I still wouldn&#8217;t think we should put our faith in him</a>.</p>
<p>A world without value at its core is the world generally suggested by modern natural science, with the <a href="<a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/the-god-hypothesis/">hypothesis of God the creator</a> refuted by the evidence. But as I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/advaita-theodicy-and-the-goodness-of-existence/">noted before</a>, it is <i>also</i> the world suggested by Buddhism, at least before the doctrine of Buddha-nature complicates the picture. The world just is; it is indifferent to our suffering, and it&#8217;s up to us to do something about that suffering. Still, the Buddhist view does raise questions about how value comes to exist in the first place. <i>Why</i> is suffering bad, or why is it experienced as bad? How can that badness, that fact that something is wrong with suffering and we should do something about it, come to be, if goodness and badness are not somehow fundamental to the nature of reality? One might go so far as to say that Buddhists and scientists face a <i>problem of good</i>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The work of Harvard analytical ethicist Christine Korsgaard is justly renowned, for her clever attempt to reconstruct a Kantian ethics in the abstract terms of contemporary analytical moral philosophy, without the philosophy of religion and other elements of Kant&#8217;s philosophy that contemporary philosophers find hard to defend. She has received less attention for her interesting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The work of Harvard analytical ethicist <a href="http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~korsgaar/">Christine Korsgaard</a> is justly renowned, for her clever attempt to reconstruct a Kantian ethics in the abstract terms of contemporary analytical moral philosophy, without the <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kant-religion/">philosophy of religion</a> and other elements of Kant&#8217;s philosophy that contemporary philosophers find hard to defend. She has received less attention for her interesting takes on the history of Western ethics &#8211; which suggest to me some potential problems with her overall project.</p>
<p>In the prologue to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=x233_0hM2OkC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=sources+of+normativity&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=DE-OQaOBrN&#038;sig=ctCmJClXQA5vrt43h7VxBrwfWdE&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=yWJtTKjoFoSKlwf0s_zYDQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=3&#038;ved=0CCIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">The Sources of Normativity</a>, probably her most important and influential work, Korsgaard provides what she calls a &#8220;<i>very</i> concise history&#8221; (her emphasis) of the connections between metaphysics and ethics in Western philosophy. I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/two-concepts-of-altruism/">noted recently</a> that the concept of <i>obligation</i> is central to Korsgaard&#8217;s philosophy, as it is to Lévinas&#8217;s; this prologue provides us with historical reasons why an obligation-centred philosophy might be a worthwhile project.</p>
<p>Plato and Aristotle, Korsgaard notes, had a philosophy focused on excellence (<i>aretē</i>, often translated &#8220;virtue&#8221;) rather than obligation, as do most of those who today reject Kantian and utilitarian ethics and are therefore usually lumped into the catch-all category of &#8220;virtue ethics.&#8221; Their ethics had much more to do more with what is good, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/taking-back-ethics/"> what we should care about</a>, than with what others oblige us to do. But, Korsgaard adds, in Plato and Aristotle this account depends on metaphysics, on a view of the way things really are. <span id="more-1498"></span> For them, a thing&#8217;s highest perfection and potential &#8211; its form &#8211; was in some sense more real than the existing particular thing as it actually is. </p>
<p>Korsgaard correctly notes that Christianity changed Western philosophy&#8217;s emphasis, away from excellence and toward obligation and law, with God as the lawgiver. But what if we no longer assume that God is the source of ethics? What we cannot do, she says, is go back to Plato and Aristotle&#8217;s world of excellence. &#8220;Because for us, the world is no longer first and foremost form. It is <i>matter</i>.&#8221; (4) By identifying ultimate reality with matter, we have separated the real from the good; we no longer look at actual things as reflecting a higher and better potential. And this means that a Platonic or Aristotelian ethics of excellence is no longer available to us.</p>
<p>What Korsgaard does <i>not</i> say, however, is that this new, hard, scientific world is entirely bereft of value. Indeed, she sees that it cannot be. (Although she does not put it in these terms, science&#8217;s claims to truth are <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/why-we-should-ask-what-science-is/">themselves grounded in value</a>.) She says:</p>
<blockquote><p>If the real and the good are no longer one, value must find its way into the world somehow. Form must be imposed on the world of matter. This is the work of art, the work of obligation, and it brings us back to Kant. And this is what we should expect. For it was Kant who completed the revolution, when he said that reason — which is form — isn&#8217;t in the world, but is something that we impose upon it. The ethics of autonomy is the only one consistent with the metaphysics of the modern world, and the ethics of autonomy is an ethics of obligation. (5)</p></blockquote>
<p>Now I think there is something very wrong with this paragraph. Korsgaard has accepted that value has a real place in the world, even the world of a modern scientific metaphysics; and she then claims that value&#8217;s place in the world is one of obligation (as opposed, by implication, to excellence). The next parts of the book flesh out her account of the ethics of obligation, but let us leave that aside for the moment. Let us assume for now that Korsgaard, in the rest of the book, succeeds in founding ethics on obligation. Isn&#8217;t there still something missing? </p>
<p>Korsgaard&#8217;s account of value, as provided here, derives that value <i>only</i> from obligation. If her account in the rest of the book were correct, it might be the case that all <i>moral</i> value comes from obligation. But is that the only kind of value in the world? Korsgaard never tries to argue that, and it&#8217;s hard to see how she could. She opens the prologue by saying: &#8220;It is the most striking fact about human life that we have values. We think of ways that things could be better, more perfect, and so of course different, than they are; and of ways that we ourselves could be better, more perfect, and so of course different, than we are.&#8221; (1) But <i>things</i> are not obliged to do or be anything, certainly not on any Kantian account of morality. Indeed if one were to imagine obligation being applied to things, it would likely have to be on something like the Greek teleological metaphysics that Korsgaard explicitly rejects: it is the purpose of a knife to cut well, therefore it is that knife&#8217;s duty to cut well. </p>
<p>There is, then, a yawning gap in Korsgaard&#8217;s historical account of value, <i>even if</i> we take her account of morality and obligation to be true. At a minimum, this ethics must be accompanied by an <i>aesthetics</i>. Some accounts of ethics &#8211; including those <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/taking-back-ethics/">I&#8217;m most sympathetic with</a> &#8211; do not restrict their concern to morality in the strict sense, and might therefore include aesthetics, but this appears not to be the case with Korsgaard&#8217;s. And while Korsgaard&#8217;s quote above tantalizingly lists &#8220;the work of art&#8221; along with &#8220;the work of obligation&#8221; above, suggesting the importance of aesthetics, it seems on a fuller reading that this is only apparent: when she uses the word &#8220;art&#8221; elsewhere in this passage, she contrasts it with what is natural, and so appears to mean only &#8220;artifice,&#8221; the <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/xunzi/">Xunzian</a> point that we are not naturally good but need to work on it. </p>
<p>And so it seems that aesthetics, at least, is missing from Korsgaard&#8217;s account. Just as we need an account of how people&#8217;s actions can be right and wrong, so we need an account of how things can be beautiful and ugly. Kant did not have this problem since he had a <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/kantaest/">highly developed aesthetics</a>, but it is not clear whether Korsgaard buys it. But it would seem, on Korsgaard&#8217;s account, that one must either adopt something very much like Kant&#8217;s aesthetics (as she does with his ethics) or return in some respect to a semi-premodern metaphysical account that sees value in the world while still taking science into consideration &#8211; as <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hegel/">Hegel</a> tried to do, for example. If one takes this latter route with aesthetics, however, it would seem that one is compelled to do so with ethics too.</p>
<p>I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/two-concepts-of-altruism/">recently noted</a> the strong similarities between Korsgaard&#8217;s philosophy of obligation and that of Emmanuel Lévinas. Lévinas, in one of his better-known essays, tells us that &#8220;ethics is first philosophy&#8221; &#8211; and by &#8220;ethics&#8221; he means obligation. But, I&#8217;m told, Speculative Realist <a href="http://doctorzamalek2.wordpress.com/">Graham Harman</a> retorts that &#8220;<i>aesthetics</i> is first philosophy.&#8221; I&#8217;m wondering if issues like this are what Harman has in mind: we don&#8217;t just need an account of moral value, we need an account of value as such. </p>
<p>In his <a href="http://speculumcriticum.blogspot.com/2010/06/eternity-and-objects.html">excellent post</a> which quotes Harman to this effect, Skholiast adds a quote from Wittgenstein that &#8220;Ethics and aesthetics are one.&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure I would go that far; but it seems to me that there must be some sort of connection between the two, a connection that Korsgaard implies only to ignore. We could, I suppose, say that <i>axiology</i> is first philosophy &#8211; &#8220;axiology&#8221; meaning the study of value &#8211; though that phrase doesn&#8217;t sound nearly as cutting as either Lévinas&#8217;s or Harman&#8217;s.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a recent post linking back to an earlier one, I spoke of being &#8220;saved from politics.&#8221; Judging by the comments and incoming links, that phrase seems to have struck a chord with several readers. But several of those readers, notably Grad Student, also rightly asked: does that mean you are urging us to be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/why-i-am-not-a-right-winger/">recent post</a> linking back to an <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/living-through-the-00s/">earlier one</a>, I spoke of being &#8220;saved from politics.&#8221; Judging by the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/why-i-am-not-a-right-winger/#comments">comments</a> and <a href="http://wordsandnumbers.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/political-anger/">incoming links</a>, that phrase seems to have struck a chord with several readers. But several of those readers, notably <a href="http://wordsandnumbers.wordpress.com/">Grad Student</a>, <a href="http://wordsandnumbers.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/the-satisfaction-of-righteous-political-anger/">also rightly asked</a>: does that mean you are urging us to be apolitical, or even anti-political?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great question, and one I&#8217;ve asked myself a number of times. Being anti-political is a position I&#8217;ve flirted with a lot, especially over the course of writing my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/lele-dissertation.pdf">dissertation</a>, and my personal views are closely entangled with the ideas I address there. In many respects I see the dissertation&#8217;s main contribution to Śāntideva scholarship as pointing out the strongly anti-political nature of Śāntideva&#8217;s thought, and the underlying reasons for his anti-politics. Śāntideva is, I think, often thought of as a great friend to the  <a href="http://www.dharmanet.org/lcengaged.htm">Engaged Buddhist</a> program of Buddhist political activism, since he is probably best known as the favourite thinker of that noted activist Tenzin Gyatso, the present (fourteenth) Dalai Lama; I claimed in the dissertation that such a placing of Śāntideva is mistaken.<span id="more-1514"></span></p>
<p>The dissertation explains this point in great detail (mostly in its fourth, fifth and seventh chapters), but I haven&#8217;t yet said much about it on the blog, and I probably should. Briefly: Śāntideva says very little about political action, but what he does say (in the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Siksa-Samuccaya-Cecil-Bendall/dp/8120807324">Śikṣā Samuccaya</a>) indicates that he <i>rejects</i> it. He gives a list of genres of information that are not worth knowing or learning about, and includes law and political science (<i>daṇḍanīti</i>) on this list. When he gives advice to kings, it is that they give their kingdoms away. </p>
<p>Why is this? I argue that it&#8217;s because Śāntideva rejects or devalues most of what Martha Nussbaum (following Aristotle) would call &#8220;external goods&#8221;: things not under our control which we would normally want, including relationships, social status and (above all) material goods. For him these things are neutral at best, and most often actively harmful (as I discussed <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/wealth-is-not-neutral/">here</a>.) Śāntideva does say that one should give these things to others &#8211; one of the reasons why Engaged Buddhists like <a href="http://users.humboldt.edu/sjenkins/pdf/Stephen%20Jenkins%20CV%202005.PDF">Stephen Jenkins</a> see him as arguing for political action on behalf of the poor. But Śāntideva&#8217;s reasoning for giving things to others, I argue, is not that they benefit from possessing the gift &#8211; indeed, they may be harmed. But such harm is worth it when they receive a gift from a bodhisattva, because it produces esteem (<i>śraddhā</i>) toward the bodhisattva &#8211; it makes the recipient more likely to listen to the bodhisattva&#8217;s dharma teaching. A crucial feature of this gift encounter, however, is that the gift come directly from a bodhisattva. Donations from a government or NGO will not do the trick. And this, I argue, is why Śāntideva does not care about governments; action to help others in politics has no genuinely beneficial effect.</p>
<p>I came to these ideas slowly. When I first presented on Śāntideva at a graduate student workshop, I was excited to talk about what Śāntideva could teach us in a contemporary context; a respondent claimed that if he urged political quietism, we could not be able to accept such a worldview in the present age. (I mentioned this response in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/political-quietism-today/">this early post</a>.) I was a little cowed by this response at first, and it took me a while to figure out an appropriate reply: but then I realized that that political quietism was, in many respects, <i>itself</i> one of the most important things that Śāntideva has to teach us. Whether we agree or disagree with it, his anti-politics is a profound and impeccably Buddhist idea, one that challenges us in a way we must think about and respond to.</p>
<p>For me, it was intoxicating to discover such an idea at a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/living-through-the-00s/">time when I needed to get away from politics</a>, when caring about politics brought nothing but pain. I felt validated in my search for a better, happier life outside politics. The seventh chapter of the dissertation juxtaposed Śāntideva&#8217;s ideas against Nussbaum&#8217;s more politically charged philosophy, effectively defending Śāntideva against Nussbaum&#8217;s objections.</p>
<p>What the dissertation did not do was take up my own substantive, constructive position on the question at hand &#8211; for such constructive positions are largely frowned upon, if not scowled upon, in academic religious studies. But such a lack of attention to constructive views allowed me to get off the hook too easily, to defend Śāntideva&#8217;s anti-politics without thinking too hard about whether I really believed it. </p>
<p>For in the end I <i>don&#8217;t</i> reject external goods; on that basic question I do stand closer to Nussbaum than to Śāntideva. Again, if I didn&#8217;t, I wouldn&#8217;t have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/09/why-im-getting-married/">got married</a>; the logical practical conclusion from Śāntideva&#8217;s thought is the monasticism which he himself practised. Some external goods are genuinely good. They can indeed be negative, as in the case of the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/wealth-is-not-neutral/">hedonic treadmill</a>; and in some cases their absence can strengthen us, as Śāntideva also claims and as I noted in an <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/05/external-goods/">earlier post</a>. But I do not think that this negativity is the norm &#8211; especially at the lower end of the social ladder, where governments are most likely to direct their help. External goods are often genuine goods, especially when they are what we often call &#8220;basic needs.&#8221;</p>
<p>In short, Śāntideva&#8217;s position on external goods &#8211; and therefore on political action &#8211; cannot be mine. So where <i>do</i> I stand? Well, I haven&#8217;t settled that yet. This is part of the reason I&#8217;ve lately been trying to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/two-concepts-of-altruism/">explore the concept of altruism</a>: the value of politics depends a lot on who we are ultimately trying to benefit. Should we aim for an enlightened self-interest, for the good of those close to us or whom we identify with, or universally for the good of all? Śāntideva takes the latter, universal position, in no uncertain terms. But I suspect he may be only able to do this <i>because</i> he devalues external goods, because the good of all is identified as their spiritual liberation. To value external goods and still seek the good of all is basically to be a utilitarian, a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/my-story-a-break-with-utilitarianism/">terribly frustrating and perhaps ultimately counterproductive</a> way of life. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Catholic Pauls, it seems clear to me, oppose ethical egoism in strong terms. Interestingly, however, they do not spend much time attacking it; instead, they attack a kind of altruism that is very different from their own. And their positions interest me greatly because of the way it highlights differences among philosophical concepts of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/010/08/the-catholic-pauls-against-nondualism/">Catholic Pauls</a>, it seems clear to me, oppose ethical egoism in strong terms. Interestingly, however, they do not spend much time attacking it; instead, they attack a kind of altruism that is very different from their own. And their positions interest me greatly because of the way it highlights differences among philosophical concepts of altruism. </p>
<p>Ethical egoism of some description &#8211; say, as advocated by <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/epicur/">Epicurus</a> &#8211; is a perfectly respectable philosophical position. One can say that one&#8217;s reasons to benefit others are all ultimately based on benefit to oneself, if one&#8217;s own self-interest is rightly understood. Neither Paul has a great deal of sympathy for this position, as far as I can tell, but it is not what they take as a target for their attack.</p>
<p>Rather, they reserve their greatest ire for a position that derives other-orientation from ātmanism &#8211; or at least from nondualism. <span id="more-1473"></span> Though Śāntideva is the last to believe in an ātman, he, like Vivekānanda, nevertheless gets to altruism by deconstructing the self, saying the differences we perceive between selves are not ultimately real. Śaṅkara and Buddhaghosa would likewise have taken the first step and deconstructed the self, saying the different human selves we perceive are; but what they would <i>not</i> have done would have been to take this as a justification for altruism. As with Epicurus, our primary goal needs to be our own liberation from suffering. This conclusion, the Pauls take as logically acceptable, though they disagree with it. </p>
<p>But the next step that Śāntideva and Vivekānanda take and Śaṅkara and Buddhaghosa do not &#8211; to say that Epicurean egoism is not acceptable <i>because</i> the individual self it defends is unreal &#8211; is a step too far, in the Paul&#8217;s eyes. For by deconstructing egoism, they reason, Śāntideva and Vivekānanda also effectively deconstruct altruism. (Williams&#8217;s chapter is entitled &#8220;How Śāntideva destroyed the bodhisattva path&#8221;!) If there is no self, there can be no other about which to be concerned; nor can there even be suffering to be prevented.</p>
<p>But neither Paul says this because they wish to advocate an Epicurean egoism, to take us back to the egoistic nondualism of a Śaṅkara. They want us to be altruistic &#8211; but only on the right grounds, and these grounds are grounds of <i>encounter</i>. For there to be real altruism, there must be real others; and therefore altruism must come out of encounter and not out of ātmanism or nondualism. </p>
<p>And while up to now I&#8217;ve discussed this issue in the sectarian terms of Catholics attacking Buddhists, I think the distinction made here also shows up in contemporary analytical ethics. <a href="http://as.nyu.edu/object/aboutas.globalprofessor.derekparfit">Derek Parfit</a> has argued for altruism on grounds which even he identified as analogous Buddhist non-self &#8211; the self is not a real entity from moment to moment, and so we should not privilege it over others. Mark Siderits has recently taken up, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ByGXPzG1F9AC&#038;pg=PR11&#038;lpg=PR11&#038;dq=mark+siderits+derek+parfit&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=Uw0YOkfEDu&#038;sig=hqGOGKo3Qq7iSvjLiYaAiLMkBc0&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=BoRYTNGzDcapngfs7LGDCQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=3&#038;ved=0CCAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&#038;q=mark%20siderits%20derek%20parfit&#038;f=false">at book length</a>, the similarities between Parfit&#8217;s view and those of Buddhist thinkers like Śāntideva.</p>
<p>I used to think there were close similarities between Parfit&#8217;s (and Śāntideva&#8217;s) view and that of <a href="http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~korsgaar/">Christine Korsgaard</a>, who &#8211; like them &#8211; argues that full-blown egoism is not rational. But the Catholic Pauls pushed me to see the differences between them. For Korsgaard criticizes egoism in a very different way, one that they could endorse.</p>
<p>Korsgaard, it turns out, does not deconstruct the ego itself &#8211; only ego<i>ism</i>. The self, on her account, is quite real; but its reasons for action are not fundamentally egoistic. In everyday life, &#8220;We do not seem to need a reason to take the reasons of others into account. We seem to need a reason not to. Certainly we do things because others want us to, ask us to, tell us to, all the time&#8230;. We respond with the alacrity of obedient soldiers to telephones and doorbell and cries for help.&#8221; (<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=oOdovrGKYWoC&#038;dq=sources+normativity&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bn&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=B65ZTPzLFITjnAfahrXiCA&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=4&#038;ved=0CCsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">The Sources of Normativity</a> 140-1) Korsgaard tries to argue that reasons for action are public in their very nature; each individual&#8217;s reasons for acting are not separate from the reasons of other individuals. And one of the fundamental ways in which reasons apply to others is <i>obligation</i>, which comes out of respect for others&#8217; humanity or personhood. If I am blithely torturing a stranger (Korsgaard&#8217;s example, derived from Thomas Nagel) and the stranger asks &#8220;How would you like it if I did that to you?&#8221; I can continue to torture the stranger, but not in the way I did before, for the stranger has now obligated me. </p>
<p>There are very strong echoes here &#8211; possibly uninentional &#8211; of Emmanuel Lévinas, the Jewish archetypical philosopher of obligation and encounter. Obligation is not a concept that shows up in Śāntideva &#8211; or, for that matter, in Aristotle. Korsgaard&#8217;s own introduction notes that it was the Christians &#8211; surely under the influence of Jewish law tradition &#8211; who began to move the mainstream of Western philosophy away from concepts of excellence (or virtue) and toward concepts of obligation. And this obligation always seems to be an obligation toward someone irreducibly different from oneself. The Advaitic ātman might have good reason to reduce its own ignorance, but it is not <i>obligated</i> to do so. </p>
<p>So, leaving aside egoistic philosophies for the moment, we can draw boundaries between two quite different justifications for altruism, two different ways in which egoism can be considered an error. In Korsgaard, Lévinas and I think the Catholic Pauls, we get an encounter variety of altruism, where each separate and individual self is in part constituted by binding obligations to others (whether other people or God). Whereas in Śāntideva, Parfit and Vivekānanda, we get a nondualist variety of altruism, one based on the idea that the selves themselves are not really real. The Catholic Pauls attack the second because they wish to move us toward the first.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A curious phenomenon in the study of South Asian and especially Buddhist traditions is the number of Catholic scholars named Paul who have approached these traditions &#8211; and especially what Skholiast has called their ātmanism &#8211; with a critical eye. The two thinkers I have primarily in mind are the late Paul Hacker (whom I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A curious phenomenon in the study of South Asian and especially Buddhist traditions is the number of Catholic scholars named Paul who have approached these traditions &#8211; and especially what <a href="http://speculumcriticum.blogspot.com/">Skholiast</a> has called their <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilbers-atmanism-vs-the-saints-encounter/">ātmanism</a> &#8211; with a critical eye. The two thinkers I have primarily in mind are the late Paul Hacker (whom I discussed <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">last time</a>, and the living <a href="http://www.bristol.ac.uk/thrs/staff/pw.html">Paul Williams</a>. (The thought of <a href="http://www.divinity.duke.edu/portal_memberdata/pgriffiths">Paul J. Griffiths</a>, who moved in his writings from Buddhology to Catholic theology, bears a strong resemblances to these other Pauls, though I have less to say about him today.) That these men are all named Paul can only be a coincidence. That they are all Catholic is less so; for there are striking affinities in the ways that they (in many respects independently of one another) approach South Asian and Buddhist tradition, affinities that are far less coincidental.<br />
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Hacker, as I noted <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">last time</a>, attacked the key figures of modern Hinduism, which he called &#8220;neo-Hinduism&#8221; and which I think <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/08/did-hinduism-exist/">the term &#8220;Hinduism&#8221; should probably be reserved for</a>. For Hacker, men like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Vivekananda">Swami Vivekānanda</a> made a mockery of Indian tradition, by creating something new that claimed itself to be old. The general historical question here parallels questions about <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/yavanayana-buddhism-a-defence/">Yavanayāna Buddhism</a>: much of what we take now as authentic Asian tradition is new and at least partially Western, but that does not necessarily make it illegitimate.</p>
<p>So far, it&#8217;s pretty much the usual story of 19th-century reform. But Hacker takes his critique much further than the basic historical point, and this is where it gets interesting to me. Hacker&#8217;s special ire, beyond his general disdain for modern Hinduism, is reserved for the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">&#8220;<i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic&#8221;</a>, the idea that because we are all ultimately one infinite spirit (&#8220;you are that,&#8221; as the <a href="http://www.swamij.com/upanishad-chandogya.htm">Chāndogya Upaniṣad</a> supposedly claims), we should help each other because we are really helping ourselves. For Hacker, it is not merely the case that classical Advaita Vedānta thinkers never adopted an altruistic or activistic <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">ethics based on the <i>tat tvam asi</i></a> of the Chāndogya Upaniṣad, but that they <i>could not have</i>. For, Hacker claims, &#8220;From the philosophical point of view, to base the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic on the foundation of the Vedāntic monism of consciousness is a logical impossibility.&#8221; (&#8220;Schopenhauer and Hindu ethics,&#8221; p. 305) On the next page he goes on to describe the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic not merely as a &#8220;logical impossibility&#8221; but as a &#8220;logical <i>monstrosity</i>.&#8221; (p. 305, my emphasis) Hacker wants to show the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic is a modern invention because, in his mind, the great Vedāntic sages of old were way too wise to ever have fallen for such a load of garbage.</p>
<p>What is it about Vivekānanda&#8217;s <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic, in Hacker&#8217;s mind, that makes it logically impossible and even monstrous? For Hacker, genuinely ethical behaviour &#8211; by which he means altruistic behaviour &#8211; depends on the existence of separate persons, whose differences are irreducible:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ethical behavior presupposes an interpersonal relationship, which loses its metaphysical justification if individual personhood has no ultimate reality&#8230;. Neither the monism of will nor the monism of consciousness or spirit has a real place for the concept of person. But when this concept is not taken seriously, ethics remains on a naturalistic level; that is, there is no true ethics, good and evil have no truly metaphysical relevance, and ultimately there are only ways of realizing or veiling the impersonal universal One&#8230;. There is no sense in which an identification of a &#8220;that&#8221; with a &#8220;thou,&#8221; such as we have in <i>tat tvam asi</i>, can explain why good and bad behavior exist. Interpersonal relationship is not identity, and it is certainly not identity of a person with an impersonal being.</p></blockquote>
<p>As philosophical argument I do not think this goes very far, not by itself anyway. Much of it depends on the semi-tautological identification of &#8220;ethics&#8221; with altruism. If one acknowledges that an ethics can be based on self-interest and that other-interest can be grounded in self-interest, then there seems little logical problem here: the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic might not really or ultimately be altruistic, but so what? Even in historical terms, Hacker seems to be on poor ground in believing that such a monistic ethic is purely modern. Hugh van Skyhawk, replying to Hacker in the 74th (1993) volume of the <a href="http://www.bori.ac.in/publications.htm#c1">Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute</a>, argued that a similar view was found in the sixteenth-century <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathi_people">Marathi</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varkari">poet-saint</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eknath">Eknath</a> (also spelled Ekanāth or Ekanātha). Eknath told his listeners (in Skyhawk&#8217;s translation) that the true yogī &#8220;immediately gives up his own interests and ventures into difficulties for the sake of others&#8221;; and argues for such altruism on strongly nondualist grounds: </p>
<blockquote><p>He, for whom there is no more “I” and “mine” and “thee” and “thine” by virtue of the contact with the worship of the divine non-duality and the Self is called the highest bhakta. If he gives his fortune (nijavitta) to another, no misgivings arise in his citta. He does not even sense a trace of alienation. No feelings of doubt arise. The object in the right hand is given to the left hand. Who is the giver here? Who is the receiver?</p></blockquote>
<p>Overall, then, Hacker&#8217;s arguments against monist ethics aren&#8217;t particularly persuasive. What excites me about Hacker&#8217;s arguments is his reasons for making them. Wilhelm Halbfass&#8217;s introduction to his <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=k91ZnWPTwXoC&#038;dq=philology+confrontation&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bn&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=G79RTJ6pHoH6lwfZ-pyhBg&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=4&#038;ved=0CCIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">collection of Hacker&#8217;s writings</a> stresses the increasing importance in Hacker&#8217;s work of his conversion to Roman Catholicism. And Catholicism, it seems to me, stresses <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilbers-atmanism-vs-the-saints-encounter/">encounter over ātmanism</a>: it is all about one&#8217;s relationship to a God with whom one is not identical.</p>
<p>The point is highlighted in the much more powerful arguments of another Catholic Paul, Paul Williams. Williams, to my knowledge, says nothing about Hacker in his work; since Williams is a Buddhologist, he may well be entirely unaware of Hacker. And yet Williams&#8217;s criticism of Śāntideva (in the final chapters of his <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=f3j5lbbjjb8C&#038;dq=williams+altruism+reality&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bn&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=bOFRTIXzCoaglAfbk6zJBQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=4&#038;ved=0CCMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">Altruism and Reality</a> parallels Hacker&#8217;s criticism of Vivekānanda in remarkable ways. Among Śāntideva&#8217;s most famous passages (now even excerpted in an <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=pPXt7bd-E4EC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=david+cooper+ethics&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=kZTmbuToS0&#038;sig=cr3GqyPEHlrzzZZKa3naj0ouxzo&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=a-RRTLjKFYaKlweBkoHeBA&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1&#038;ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">introductory ethics text</a>) is his &#8220;equalization of self and other&#8221; in verses VIII.90-119 of the Bodhicaryāvatāra, in which he argues that, since the self is an illusion (a standard Buddhist view), egoistic action does not make logical sense and we should be altruistic (an innovation of his). Śāntideva is not a monist like Vivekānanda; he is strongly opposed to the Vedāntic idea of a universal cosmic self. Nevertheless, there is a close parallel in that both Śāntideva and Vivekānanda try to deconstruct our ideas of self in order to deconstruct ethical egoism and urge altruistic action. And so Williams&#8217;s criticisms of Śāntideva turn out on similar lines to Hacker&#8217;s criticisms of Vivekānanda.</p>
<p>Unlike Hacker, Williams makes no attempt at historical criticism; Williams has no doubt that Śāntideva actually believed all this. He simply thinks that Śāntideva is dead wrong. In thinking and arguing this, he has provoked a strong reaction among Buddhologists, no less than five of whom (Barbra Clayton, John Pettit, Jon Wetlesen, Mark Siderits and José Cabezón) have tried to refute him in print. I&#8217;m not going to examine today whether Williams is right or wrong (it is a complex question); but I want to explore important points in his arguments.</p>
<p>What Williams claims, against Śāntideva, is that there can be no compassion unless there are persons feeling the compassion for other persons. Compassion requires the existence of persons feeling suffering; without sufferers, there is no suffering and no compassion. (T.R. (Thill) Raghunath made a similar argument in a recent <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/trusting-in-man-trusting-in-god/#comment-2352">comment</a>.) If the self is deconstructed, so too is suffering, and indeed perhaps all reasons for action. </p>
<p>Both Paul Hacker and Paul Williams, then, are trying to tell us: you cannot have it both ways. Either you can have a nondual view (monist or otherwise) that deconstructs our everyday selves, <i>or</i> you can have the commitment to altruistic alleviation of others&#8217; suffering. The two don&#8217;t make sense together; and the first certainly isn&#8217;t an <i>argument</i> for the second.</p>
<p>Such a view seems to me to have profound roots in the Abrahamic monotheisms; while the Pauls in question are Catholic, one could surely also imagine it being made by a Jew. For indeed the criticism reminds me strongly of Emmanuel Lévinas and his insistence on the irreducible otherness of other people &#8211; with God as the ultimate other. (For breaking down the distinction between himself and God, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/07/monotheists-humility/">al-Hallāj was tortured and killed</a>.) The ethical deconstruction of self seems important to a nondual view of the world; but to refute such nonduality seems central to theism. (But not only Abrahamic theism: the nineteenth-century Bengali devotional poet Ramprasad Sen criticized nondualism by saying &#8220;I want to taste sugar, not to become sugar.&#8221;)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In studying Indian philosophy today one is often confronted with a question that can be surprisingly tricky: what counts as Indian philosophy, anyway? Sometimes what we think of as ancient Indian thought might be something quite different.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In studying Indian philosophy today one is often confronted with a question that can be surprisingly tricky: what counts as Indian philosophy, anyway? Sometimes what we think of as ancient Indian thought might be something quite different.</p>
<p>Perhaps the boldest statement of this point was the 1962 article &#8220;Schopenhauer and Hindu ethics,&#8221; by the late German Indologist Paul Hacker (now translated in a <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=k91ZnWPTwXoC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=philology+confrontation&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=5ll7b6qy8m&#038;sig=GloeSFVbhFljXDOinIO42qETPRc&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=qeJNTMTZLML98AaM293zCw&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1&#038;ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA">collection of Hacker&#8217;s writings</a> by Hacker&#8217;s student Wilhelm Halbfass). Hacker is reacting against what was until that point a commonplace in the presentation of Indian philosophy &#8211; an interpretation presented as uncomplicated fact, for example, in Hajime Nakamura&#8217;s <i>A Comparative History of Ideas</i> &#8211; which turns out to have a far more modern provenance. </p>
<p>The commonplace in question is what Hacker calls the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic, an idea found above all in the works of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Vivekananda">Swami Vivekānanda</a>. This ethic is Vivekānanda&#8217;s influential attempt to use Advaita Vedānta to support an altruistically engaged politics, closely parallel to what would come to be called Engaged Buddhism; it would later be picked up enthusiastically by other modern Hindu thinkers like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarvepalli_Radhakrishnan">Radhakrishnan</a>. <span id="more-1426"></span> <i>Tat tvam asi</i> is the Chāndogya Upaniṣad&#8217;s famous teaching that &#8220;you are that,&#8221; that each of us individual people is ultimately identical to the supreme principle of the universe, <i>brahman</i>. This idea of personal identity with <i>brahman</i> is standard in the Advaita Vedānta tradition of Śaṅkara and others. (<a href="http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/asianstudies/faculty/jpb33">Joel Brereton</a> argued, in an article helpfully reproduced <a href="http://menadoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/dmg/periodical/titleinfo/150382">here</a>, that <i>tat tvam asi</i>&#8217;s original meaning in the Chāndogya is actually quite different, but that&#8217;s another story.) But Vivekānanda adds something else: an ethics of altruism. Because each of us is identical with <i>brahman</i>, we are therefore also all each identical with everyone else. And therefore if we really understood how things were, we would help out everyone else: </p>
<blockquote><p>There are moments when every man feels that he is one with the universe, and he rushes forth to express it, whether he knows it or not. This expression of oneness is what we call love and sympathy, and it is the basis of all our ethics and morality. This is summed up in the Vedånta philosophy by the celebrated aphorism, Tat Tvam Asi, “Thou art That.” To every man, this is taught: Thou art one with this Universal Being, and, as such, every soul that exists, is your soul; and every body that exists, is your body; and in hurting any one, you hurt yourself, in loving any one, you love yourself. (Collected Works of Swami Vivekānanda, Mayavati Memorial Edition, I.388-9)</p></blockquote>
<p>Against this &#8220;<i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic,&#8221; Hacker thinks he has found a smoking gun of sorts. A scholar with a background in Engaged Buddhism and similar movements might expect that such political engagement is a modern Indian invention; but Hacker goes a step further. For him this ethic is not even Indian at all, but an invention of German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer. In his 1841 work <i>On the Basis of Morality</i>, which identified compassion as the fundamental basis for morality, Schopenhauer claimed:</p>
<blockquote><p>In Sanskrit <i>tat tvam asi</i> (this art thou) is the formula, the standing expression, for this knowledge. It is this that bursts forth as compassion on which all genuine, i.e. disinterested, virtue therefore depends, and whose real expression is every good deed. In the last resort, it is this knowledge to which every appeal to gentleness, leniency, loving-kindness, and mercy instead of justice, is directed. For such an appeal is a reminder of that respect in which we are all one and the same entity. (Schopenhauer, E.F.J. Payne translation, p. 210)</p></blockquote>
<p>And according to Hacker, Vivekānanda only believed in the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic because he got it from Schopenhauer! It happened indirectly, through the well connected Indologist Paul Deussen &#8211; a mutual friend of Schopenhauer and Vivekānanda (and Nietzsche), who believed that <i>tat tvam asi</i> could be a strong support for compassion and activism (though it had not actually been such in Indian history). Looking through Vivekānanda&#8217;s writings, Hacker finds that before Vivekānanda met Deussen in September 1896, he lamented that Vedānta (specifically meaning Advaita) was an impediment to altruism and social service. Based on the journals of others present at the 1896 meeting, Deussen and Vivekānanda almost certainly discussed the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic there; and <i>after</i> that meeting, Vivekānanda began giving a great number of enthusiastic speeches proclaiming that Advaita Vedānta offered the highest support for compassion and social activism. (Both Hacker and Vivekānanda tend to use the concepts of morality, compassion, activism and social service almost interchangeably; I think my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/lele-dissertation.pdf">dissertation</a> demonstrates that this is a great conflation, but that too is another story.) Hacker concludes that the link between Vedānta and compassion was effectively conjured up by Schopenhauer, and adopted by modern Indians only because Schopenhauer&#8217;s idea passed to Vivekānanda through Deussen.</p>
<p>Is Hacker&#8217;s account right? Dermot Killingley&#8217;s &#8220;Vivekānanda&#8217;s Western message from the East&#8221; (in William Radice&#8217;s unfortunately OOP <i>Swami Vivekānanda and the Modernization of Hinduism</i>) has demonstrated that it is likely overstated. Killingley shows that Vivekānanda had started making some claims similar to the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic before he  had met Deussen. The encounter with Deussen probably crystallized the idea of the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic in Vivekānanda&#8217;s mind, but he had had most of the basic idea already. Like the Engaged Buddhists, Vivekānanda had already been searching for ways to bring together his ancient tradition with the modern Western idea of political engagement; his encounter with a Westerner helped him develop the idea, but the Westerner doesn&#8217;t deserve all the credit. And as with Yavanayāna Buddhism, the idea&#8217;s modern provenance should not necessarily discredit it.</p>
<p>The story Hacker tells is an interesting one. But from the point of view of my current philosophical interests, still more interesting are the reasons why he tells it. I will turn to that point next time.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his talk at the conference this year, SACP president Peimin Ni pushed further on the claim he made last year: the idea of philosophy as a technique. I was fortunate to spend a long and enjoyable lunch discussing the talk and its ideas with him further. (I love the SACP conferences because their format [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his talk at the conference this year, SACP president Peimin Ni pushed further on the claim he made last year: the idea of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/when-is-a-philosophy-a-technique/">philosophy as a technique</a>. I was fortunate to spend a long and enjoyable lunch discussing the talk and its ideas with him further. (I love the SACP conferences because their format is designed to encourage the emergence of mealtime conversations like this; last year I enjoyed a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/defending-consciousness/">similarly thoughtful discussion with Ted Slingerland</a>.) The present post recounts the ideas expressed at the lunch, naturally from my own side; I hope I am being fair to Ni&#8217;s arguments in what follows.</p>
<p>Ni&#8217;s talk focused on the Chinese concept of <i>gongfu</i> 功夫, dating from the early centuries CE and meaning any practical art &#8211; it could include calligraphy, sports, cooking, good judgement or statecraft. (Although the word <i>gongfu</i> has long ago passed into English with an alternate spelling, it is probably best to keep using the Pinyin spelling rather than confuse people with a term most associate with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Panda">goofy movies about roundhouse kicks</a>.) </p>
<p><i>Gongfu</i> as Ni understands it then bears some resemblance to the Greek concept of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techne">technē</a>, or Alasdair MacIntyre&#8217;s concept of practice, with one crucial difference. Aristotle&#8217;s <i>technē</i> involves a <i>telos</i>; it is embedded within a larger determinate framework of human flourishing. With <i>gongfu</i>, on the other hand, Ni agreed with my earlier characterization of the process as a technique. It is open to us to choose our aims; <i>gongfu</i> merely allows us to achieve those aims. There is a <i>gongfu</i> of killing as well as a <i>gongfu</i> of saving. <span id="more-1341"></span> (Ni effectively uses the concept to expand his <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/when-is-a-philosophy-a-technique/">previous characterization of Mencius</a> into a constructive position.)</p>
<p>Ni urges us to a conception of practical philosophy in which <i>gongfu</i>, thus conceived, takes centre stage. Theoretical philosophy, especially metaphysics, then serves the function not of description but of recommendation. Philosophy is a way of achieving our chosen ends, a set of instructions rather than responsibilities. Philosophies, like other practices, can be evaluated as techniques &#8211; on their effectiveness at achieving their aims.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a word for the kind of philosophy Ni is describing, and it&#8217;s relativism. Ni&#8217;s <i>gongfu</i> is not relativistic with respect to means; a philosophy can be discredited if it fails to achieve its goals. It is, however, entirely relativistic with respect to ends; ultimate ends are up to our decisions and choices, and there is no rational basis on which to criticize them. The value of each <i>gongfu</i> is relative to the incommensurable ends it aims to achieve.</p>
<p>As such, Ni&#8217;s approach seems vulnerable to the standard criticisms levelled at relativism. One asks: does this philosophy have any grounds on which to criticize evil actions &#8211; of which we might often take Adolf Hitler&#8217;s as the paradigm? Ni&#8217;s first answer was, to my mind, entirely unsatisfactory: that Hitler&#8217;s project failed on its own terms, that he committed suicide and ended his life in misery. This claim is of course true as far as it goes, but it doesn&#8217;t go far. It is not too difficult to imagine a Hitler who succeeded, perhaps by reining in his ambitions a little bit and maintaining the Nazi-Soviet pact. Such a Hitler, maintaining his reign of terror for decades or more, seems <i>worse</i> than the Hitler we know.</p>
<p>Ni then proceeded to offer a strong perspectival defence of sorts: criticism would be part of our own <i>gongfu</i>. We can criticize Hitler from our side, within our own ends; we can and should take this a step further and <i>fight</i> him. Action against Hitler is a part of achieving <i>our</i> aims; it&#8217;s just that there&#8217;s no objective ground from which to criticize him. </p>
<p>Against such a view, I developed some of the arguments I made in my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/what-does-postmodernism-perform/">critique of postmodernism</a>. Relativism privileges the strong. It is no coincidence that Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. believed in universal, objective truths; for it was only on such a basis that they could nonviolently shame their oppressors into relenting. Imagine King standing up and proclaiming: &#8220;I have a dream that my children will one day live in freedom and justice and brotherhood. But I know that you have a dream of maintaining this world of segregation, and I know that objectively my dream is no better than yours. So I will fight for my dream, and you fight for yours.&#8221; If civil rights leaders had all talked that way, even <i>thought</i> that way, it&#8217;s easy to imagine the South remaining segregated for centuries. </p>
<p>Moral persuasion works by imagining ideals larger than one person&#8217;s given ends. Without it, there is only violent persuasion, persuasion by force &#8211; which, by definition, favours the strong. It is no accident that the most powerfully expressed relativist position in Plato&#8217;s <i>Republic</i> &#8211; the one which ends on a note of &#8220;you have your position, Socrates, and I have mine&#8221; &#8211; is expressed by Thrasymachus, who has argued that justice is merely the interest of the stronger. Without an ability to cross paradigms and argue about ends, the interest of the stronger is what prevails. When the weak prevailed and achieved a more just world, as they did in Gandhi&#8217;s and King&#8217;s cases, they could only do so because they had on their side a conception of the good beyond their own limited paradigms, one which had a binding authority on everyone.</p>
<p>Knowing this point, those aiming for change could certainly try to lie &#8211; to proclaim universal ideals they did not themselves believe in, as itself part of the technique, the <i>gongfu</i>, for achieving their individually derived goals. (I believe that <a href="http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Spivak.html">Gayatri Spivak</a> has argued for a &#8220;strategic essentialism&#8221; that bears a strong resemblance to this approach.) An outsider might refer to such a person as a liar and a hypocrite, but such outside criticisms do not of themselves need to bear any weight on the relativist individual who disregards outsiders&#8217; ends. More important is that such an approach can itself be rather self-defeating &#8211; public figures aiming for social change have their words and actions relentlessly dissected and examined. If King or Gandhi had really believed that what they were doing was only best for them and not universal &#8211; but proclaimed the opposite &#8211; their lies would have stood a good chance of being exposed.</p>
<p>Or, pushing the point further, one might even try hard to <i>believe</i> in a universalist view in order to advance one&#8217;s own pragmatic goals. Ni&#8217;s interpretation of Mencius (about which I hope to say more) suggested such an approach: rather than deriving one&#8217;s ethical or political practice from a metaphysics of the world&#8217;s nature, one starts with the practice and employs the metaphysics as a part of it. So one might try to take on a universalist metaphysics in order to advance one&#8217;s pragmatic goals, even though one is convinced that there is no such universal metaphysics that transcends each individual&#8217;s given ends. I have somewhat more sympathy for this possibility, as I have explored a similar possibility with respect to hedonism. But I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/04/paradoxes-of-hedonism/">concluded there</a> that such an attempt is self-defeating. More generally, from a commonsense point of view, it is bad to believe things one knows to be false; from a philosophical point of view, it is bad to avoid thinking too hard lest one think the wrong things. More specifically, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/01/why-worry-about-contradictions/">contradictions get in the way of one&#8217;s own practice</a>, whether personal or political: when one believes a contradiction, one cannot &#8211; pretty much by definition &#8211; believe either side of the contradiction wholeheartedly. It is much more difficult to fight for justice (or anything else) when one is already at war with oneself, for such a fight must be fought on two fronts.</p>
<p>Ni made one final reply before the lunch ended: he noted that I was myself arguing merely based on pragmatic effectiveness, not on the grounds of the larger metaphysical truth I hope to proclaim. He was absolutely right about this, I think, but in a way that does not undercut my position. I&#8217;ve said a lot here already; this point deserves enough attention that I will save it for another post.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been a fair bit of blogosphere buzz about Sam Harris&#8217;s recent TED talk, entitled &#8220;Science can answer moral questions.&#8221; I didn&#8217;t expect to agree much with Harris, given my usual objections to empiricist scientism and related attempts to exalt &#8220;science&#8221; against &#8220;religion.&#8221; And I think there are indeed a number of problems with Harris&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a fair bit of blogosphere buzz about <a href="http://www.samharris.org/">Sam Harris</a>&#8217;s recent <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html">TED talk</a>, entitled &#8220;Science can answer moral questions.&#8221; I didn&#8217;t expect to agree much with Harris, given my usual objections to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/e-o-wilson-and-the-limits-of-empiricism/">empiricist scientism</a> and related attempts to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/does-p-z-myers-love-his-wife/">exalt &#8220;science&#8221; against &#8220;religion.&#8221;</a> And I think there are indeed a number of problems with Harris&#8217;s view. And yet there&#8217;s quite a lot that Harris gets right &#8211; at least as much, I think, as most of his critics.</p>
<p>The most widely read response to Harris (and the one that <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/newsfeed/item/moral_confusion_in_the_name_of_science3/">Harris himself responded to at length</a>) is <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/03/24/the-moral-equivalent-of-the-parallel-postulate/">one by Sean Carroll</a>. I find the Harris-Carroll debate instructive because both seem to miss the most important point; and that, in turn, would seem to be because both fall prey to an unfortunate empiricism.</p>
<p>At the heart of the debate is the supposed dichotomy between &#8220;facts&#8221; and &#8220;values,&#8221; or &#8220;is&#8221; and &#8220;ought.&#8221; (I would rather say &#8220;should&#8221; than &#8220;ought,&#8221; because &#8220;ought&#8221; sounds increasingly rare and archaic in contemporary North American English, but that&#8217;s a quibble.) Harris insists that values are a kind of fact, even objective fact, so that &#8220;should&#8221; or &#8220;ought&#8221; statements have a meaning grounded in reality, not entirely relative to or dependent upon the subjects making the claim. &#8220;Should&#8221; statements, on this view, are a kind of &#8220;is&#8221; statement. In this, I think, Harris is entirely right.</p>
<p>Where Harris slips up is in missing the elision of &#8220;fact&#8221; with &#8220;<i>empirical</i> fact.&#8221; <span id="more-1141"></span> It&#8217;s this point that lends plausibility to Carroll&#8217;s criticism: Carroll is right to reply that we get &#8220;off on the wrong foot by insisting that values are simply a particular version of empirical facts.&#8221; Harris&#8217;s reply, however, <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/newsfeed/item/moral_confusion_in_the_name_of_science3/">misses this elision</a>, not challenging it, and that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s vulnerable to Carroll&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/03/29/sam-harris-responds/">counter-claim</a>: &#8220;<em>there exist real moral questions that no amount of empirical research alone will help us solve.</em>&#8221; (his emphasis)</p>
<p>On Harris&#8217;s example of corporal punishment, for example, let us assume that Harris is right that corporal punishment negatively affects the well-being of children and of society in general. Does that give us sufficient reason to say that corporal punishment is wrong? Not if we buy <a href="http://www1.american.edu/dgolash/Kant_on_Punishment.html">Kant&#8217;s theory of punishment</a>, according to which punishment is an obligation owed to those punished, irrespective of its consequences. For Kant, as is well known, does not take the well-being of conscious creatures as the primary measure of goodness or rightness. Is Kant wrong? I think he is; but I also think there&#8217;s <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/04/paradoxes-of-hedonism/">something wrong</a> with a viewpoint that takes happiness, or even <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/consequentialism-and-lying-to-oneself/">more broadly defined consequences like &#8220;well-being&#8221;</a>, as the sole standard for ethics. I think Harris is right to say well-being should be <i>a</i> standard by which we judge actions, but as far as I can tell he&#8217;s got no ground whatever to say it should be <i>the</i> standard.</p>
<p>But to get back to Carroll, the next question to ask here is: just what kind of question am I arguing with Harris about here? Harris, I think, is right to say that they are questions of fact. And to some extent even of <i>objective</i> fact: claims about good and bad do not depend entirely or even primarily on the subject making those claims. Even Kant would agree: lying is wrong whether or not you think it&#8217;s wrong, whether or not you want it to be. It&#8217;s just that, contra Harris, it&#8217;s not an <i>empirical</i> fact; establishing it relies on procedures of dialectical and demonstrative argument that <i>can</i>, but do not necessarily, involve reference to empirical states. </p>
<p>For Kant, knowledge of moral principles is <i>surer</i> than knowledge of the empirical world, because empirical facts change, but moral principles &#8211; like mathematical principles &#8211; are derived from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_priori_and_a_posteriori">a priori</a> principles which are true no matter what happens to the physical world. We can imagine ourselves waking up in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix">The Matrix</a> and finding that the laws of physics in this new reality are completely different from what we thought they were. We <i>cannot</i> really imagine 2+2 being 5, even in the Matrix. That&#8217;s why Plato looked to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/09/certain-knowledge/">mathematics, not empirical science, as a source of certainty</a>; Kant saw moral truths as being like mathematical truths. </p>
<p>Now is Kant right about <i>that</i>? Not wholly. He <i>is</i> right to move the question beyond the realm of the entirely empirical; <i>some</i> ethical claims, especially those at the foundations, must involve the <i>a priori</i>. In his <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/03/29/sam-harris-responds/">counterargument</a>, Carroll starts to show that he gets this point: &#8220;The crucial point is that the difference between sets of incompatible moral assumptions is not analogous to the difference between believing in the Big Bang vs. believing in the Steady State model; but it is analogous to believing in science vs. being a radical epistemological skeptic who claims not to trust their sense data.&#8221; Indeed. What Carroll <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> get here, though, is that the disagreement between the scientist and the skeptic is itself a disagreement about facts, about the way that the universe is. It can in principle be resolved through argument, just as Carroll tries to resolve his own debate with Harris through argument, while still acknowledging that the debate does not rest on empirical evidence. </p>
<p>And so, while the analogy stands up very well, what doesn&#8217;t stand up is the way Carroll resolves the analogy: &#8220;In the cosmological-models case, we trust that we agree on the underlying norms of science and together we form a functioning community; in the epistemological case, we don’t agree on the underlying assumptions, and we have to hope to agree to disagree and work out social structures that let us live together in peace.&#8221; The assumption here seems to be that scientists can reach agreement because they share underlying assumptions, but that no agreement can be reached with those who don&#8217;t share those underlying assumptions. But if that&#8217;s so, <i>science is wrong</i> &#8211; or at least it&#8217;s no more right than Christianity, the Taliban, or any other belief system that Carroll might otherwise wish to condemn. Because of course the Taliban agree on underlying norms and form a functioning community &#8211; much more so, I dare say, than scientists do. The hard part, and the place where the norms of ethics are to be established, is arguing <i>across</i> the boundaries of those communities, finding  truth between people whose assumptions are radically different. This is exactly what advocates of science like Carroll need to do, not just on questions of ethics, but on the value of science itself. For Carroll &#8211; unlike Harris &#8211; is saying here that science, like ethics, is itself true only relative to the assumptions of the scientific community. But the whole <i>point</i> of science is to do better than that &#8211; to say something about how the physical universe <i>actually works</i>, not just about how <i>we think</i> it works. (In <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/04/14/what-to-do-about-the-pope/">other posts</a> Carroll speaks of wanting to &#8220;convert&#8221; Catholics to atheism or naturalism or skepticism, which suggests that he does indeed think science&#8217;s views are not just different but <i>better</i>; for him to really claim that his views were simply equivalent to Christianity would, I think, be disingenuous.) Ethics is much the same here. Science and ethics both try to establish matters of fact; both rest on assumptions that are always disputed. But we do ourselves no favours in either arena by throwing up our hands and saying there is no truth that crosses communities.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In recent posts about lying to oneself, I&#8217;ve emphasized the importance of truth. Truth seems to have an intrinsic value separate from all beneficial consequences, something sometimes worth following even if its results are bad. But what exactly does this mean? What does it imply for how we choose to live our lives?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/consequentialism-and-lying-to-oneself/">recent</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/04/paradoxes-of-hedonism/">posts</a> about lying to oneself, I&#8217;ve emphasized the importance of truth. Truth seems to have an intrinsic value separate from all beneficial consequences, something sometimes worth following even if its results are bad. But what exactly does this mean? What does it imply for how we choose to live our lives?</p>
<p>While I think I&#8217;ve established the importance of truth as an end in itself, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve at all established that truth as an end <i>overrides</i> other ends, especially beneficial consequences. I am not convinced of Kant&#8217;s or Augustine&#8217;s view that lies are always unconditionally wrong &#8211; that one should tell the truth <a href="http://philosophy.ucsd.edu/faculty/rarneson/Courses/KANTsupposedRightToLie.pdf">even to a murderer whose victim you&#8217;re sheltering</a>. In Rawls&#8217;s terms, I don&#8217;t think that there is a &#8220;lexical order&#8221; of priority between truth and good consequences, such that the latter matters only when the former isn&#8217;t an issue. Far from it.</p>
<p>Indeed I&#8217;m concerned about an overemphasis on truth <i>per se</i>. In an <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/08/lying-to-oneself-about-children-and-happiness/">earlier post</a> I thought about this question in the context of children and happiness: suppose that one&#8217;s children make one less happy, as some psychological research suggests is often the case. If one keeps this truth firmly in mind at all times, one is likely going to become a significantly worse parent. Even supposing that one should recognize this truth, one is likely better off <i>ignoring</i> it.</p>
<p>Here the relevant distinction may be between truth and <i>importance</i>, significance. It is true (in this supposed case) that one&#8217;s children make one less happy; but it is also true that one should love one&#8217;s children as wholeheartedly as possible. And the second truth is <i>more important</i> than the latter, it <i>matters</i> more. (Even if beneficial consequences are not the issue; Kant himself would have to say that it is a duty to love one&#8217;s children.) And so perhaps in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/consequentialism-and-lying-to-oneself/">other cases</a> I have recently considered: the truth that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/praying-to-something-you-dont-believe-in/">Mañju?r?</a> doesn&#8217;t exist matters less than the truth that praying to Mañju?r? helps one in dark times; the truths seen by pessimists matter less than the truth that optimism makes one happier.</p>
<p>I begin to wonder whether the concept of importance needs to get more philosophical investigation than it so far has. The biggest divide in contemporary Western thought, between analytic and &#8220;continental&#8221; philosophy, has seemed to me to rest at least in part on <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/05/analytic-and-continental-philosophy/">exactly this distinction</a>: analytic philosophy typically looks for truth without importance, continental philosophy for importance without truth.</p>
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		<title>Paradoxes of hedonism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[By far the most famous portions of ??ntideva&#8217;s work are his meditations on the equalization and exchange of self and other, found in chapter VIII of the Bodhicary?vat?ra. They appear in Western introductory readers on ethics, and are considered the foundation for an entire genre of Tibetan literature, blo sbyong or &#8220;mental purification.&#8221; Personally, these [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By far the most famous portions of ??ntideva&#8217;s work are his meditations on the equalization and exchange of self and other, found in chapter VIII of the Bodhicary?vat?ra. They appear in <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=pPXt7bd-E4EC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=cooper+ethics&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=kZSmeuXqWV&#038;sig=OdWzaQs-ygMU1vSxDdCAn5bM2u4&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=VPK9S9XkLsOclgeOtJGFBw&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1&#038;ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">Western introductory readers on ethics</a>, and are considered the foundation for an entire genre of Tibetan literature, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojong">blo sbyong</a> or &#8220;mental purification.&#8221; Personally, these are not generally my favourite parts of ??ntideva&#8217;s work; his arguments against the existence of the self do not convince me, and the meditative exercises strike me as potentially damaging. That said, they do contain one line that sticks with me, that strikes me as extremely profound and valuable: <em>All those in the world who are suffering are so because of a desire for their own happiness. All those in the world who are happy are so because of a desire for the happiness of others.</em> (BCA VIII.129, my translation)</p>
<p>I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/09/santideva-helps-lucretius/">discussed this claim once before</a> but want to return to it. The claim is, I think, overstated for rhetorical effect. Even in ??ntideva&#8217;s eyes, <i>merely</i> desiring others&#8217; happiness will not make you happy &#8211; especially if you are misguided about the causes of their happiness, so that you try only to provide them with <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/05/external-goods/">external goods</a> rather than addressing the inner mental causes of their suffering. And yet from my experience, I would still say the claim is more true than not. There&#8217;s something self-defeating about searching after one&#8217;s own happiness itself. If one keeps one&#8217;s eye on this goal above all, one becomes too acutely aware of failures at it, too focused on one&#8217;s lack of happiness &#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;m trying so hard to be happy and yet I&#8217;m not; something must be wrong with me&#8221; &#8211; and the goal is inhibited. (In his book <a href="http://www.powersleep.org/">Power Sleep,</a> psychologist James Maas noted a similar problem with respect to sleep: subjects offered $20 if they fell asleep quickly would take <i>longer</i> to fall asleep than subjects who were not offered the money.) <span id="more-1105"></span></p>
<p>This &#8220;paradox of hedonism&#8221; (as <a href="http://philosophy.ucsd.edu/faculty/rarneson/Courses/railtonalienationconsequentialism.pdf">Peter Railton calls it</a>) is what comes to my mind when I hear Jesus&#8217;s paradox expressed in the books of Matthew and Luke: &#8220;Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.&#8221; The alternative proffered to seeking one&#8217;s own life and happiness is different &#8211; following Jesus rather than seeking others&#8217; happiness &#8211; but there is a commonality in the importance of looking to something bigger than oneself. </p>
<p>All this is another of the points that lead me to a foundational ethical point that I&#8217;ve been coming to more and more (and somewhat grudgingly): <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/10/is-pleasure-the-only-intrinsic-good/">there must be more to the proper end of life than pleasure</a>, and more even than happiness itself. One could argue (as <a href="http://ethicalwerewolf.blogspot.com/">Neil Sinhababu</a> and other utilitarians indeed do) that a focus on others&#8217; happiness is enough, but it strikes me that such an approach is still vulnerable to the paradox. Too much focus on others&#8217; happiness can lead one to a despair just like that found when one focuses on one&#8217;s own happiness: one sees the billion miserable people out there, and seeing the fact only increases their number to a billion and one. (This problem was at the heart of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/my-story-a-break-with-utilitarianism/">my own conversion away from utilitarianism</a>.)</p>
<p>As I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/consequentialism-and-lying-to-oneself/">noted before</a>, Railton tries to save utilitarianism (or consequentialism more generally) by distinguishing between truth and justification: it could still be <i>true</i> that the only proper purpose of life is to be happy or to make others happy, but that for that very reason one is not justified in <i>believing</i> it is so. But I have a hard time accepting such a view. I&#8217;m reminded of Freud&#8217;s comment on a very similar viewpoint advocating useful fictions, Hans Vaihinger&#8217;s philosophy of the &#8220;as if&#8221;: Freud said that its demand &#8220;is one only a philosopher could put forward.&#8221; While ordinary unphilosophical people do indeed believe false things all the time, they usually do so merely because they haven&#8217;t thought about them; once they actually understand that something is false, that is sufficient reason for them to stop believing it. And we philosophers face a similar problem in the opposite direction: Railton&#8217;s or Vaihinger&#8217;s views seem to require that we not think too hard about our own philosophy lest we stop (or start!) believing it, which would appear to be the antithesis of what a philosopher does. Whether we&#8217;re philosophical or not, the call to deliberately believe false things seems to ring hollow. And therefore, for the reasons above, it seems to me that we can&#8217;t reasonably accept happiness as the sole aim of life.</p>
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