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		<description><![CDATA[On my dissertation committee, Janet Gyatso always had perceptive comments to make, usually coming from many different directions. The one line of criticism that she pursued throughout the dissertation process was about authorship: she was visibly dissatisfied that I had chosen to pursue the diss as a study of a single author, Śāntideva. The point [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my dissertation committee, <a href="http://www.hds.harvard.edu/faculty/gyatso.cfm">Janet Gyatso</a> always had perceptive comments to make, usually coming from many different directions. The one line of criticism that she pursued throughout the dissertation process was about authorship: she was visibly dissatisfied that I had chosen to pursue the diss as a study of a single author, Śāntideva. The point extended beyond my dissertation as well: early on in my PhD, I gave her a paper that explained it would treat the Yoga Sūtras together with their Yoga Bhāṣya commentary as an &#8220;internally coherent,&#8221; and she commented &#8220;you can&#8217;t do that.&#8221; In other classes focused on reading texts, she would tell her students that the class would not look for coherence &#8211; they would not be asking questions of the form &#8220;if the text says <i>x</i> here, how can it say <i>y</i> over here when the two contradict each other?&#8221; </p>
<p>One can always argue the details of this textual question in any given case. In Śāntideva&#8217;s case it&#8217;s not only a matter of arguing whether &#8220;his&#8221; two major works (the Bodhicaryāvatāra and the Śikṣā Samuccaya) were written by the same person; it&#8217;s also the fact that these texts may themselves be the work of multiple writers, in that there&#8217;s an early version of the Bodhicaryāvatāra (the &#8220;Dunhuang recension&#8221;) which differs from the received version known to tradition. But there&#8217;s an issue here much bigger than the interpretation of any one thinker: should one even <i>try</i> to find the coherent views of an individual author?  <span id="more-1524"></span></p>
<p>Gyatso greatly admired the works of Jacques Derrida, who threw doubt on the idea of authorship, and often focused on the &#8220;margins&#8221; of texts in order to highlight inconsistencies and ways in which the texts break down. Her course on Buddhist philosophy highlighted parallels between the work of Derrida and of <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/nagarjun/">Nāgārjuna</a>. In some respects it&#8217;s not hard to see why: Derrida questions the idea of the subject or self, as most Buddhist thinkers do. If the self is unreal, as so many Buddhist thinkers have said, then so is the author. Thus perhaps Śāntideva&#8217;s disavowal of his own originality and profundity at the beginning of the Bodhicaryāvatāra. (I have tended to insist that the difference between Derrida and Buddhist Madhyamaka philosophy is that Madhyamaka has a <i>point</i>. But that&#8217;s a topic for another time.)</p>
<p>It does help, I think, to be careful with questions of authorship &#8211; to think carefully about what one means when one speaks of &#8220;Śāntideva&#8221; (or &#8220;Plato&#8221;), when the texts come to us from such questionable sources. But I also think it&#8217;s all too easy to take the point too far. When one discards the search for coherence entirely, one discards most of one&#8217;s ability to learn from the texts one reads.</p>
<p>From the first draft of my proposal to the final draft of my dissertation, my research was guided by this quote from <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/thomas-kuhn/">Thomas Kuhn</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>When reading the works of an important thinker, look first for the apparent absurdities in the text and ask yourself how a sensible person could have written them. When you find an answer, I continue, when those passages make sense, then you may find that more central passages, ones you previously thought you understood, have changed their meaning. (from p. xii of his <b>The Essential Tension</b>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Significant words here include &#8220;important thinker&#8221; and &#8220;sensible person.&#8221; You might find plenty of contradictions or other absurdities in the ramblings of an everyday, average person. But the writers of great works like the Bodhicaryāvatāra put a lot of thought into those works, and their value has repeatedly been discovered anew by thinkers in the generations that follow them. They&#8217;re not going to drop random inconsistencies into their work and just think &#8220;oh, that&#8217;s okay.&#8221; If there are contradictions, they&#8217;re going to be there for a good reason; at the very least, contradictions need to be explained.</p>
<p>It was this method of looking for coherence that allowed me to find what I think is the most innovative and important part of my dissertation&#8217;s interpretation of Śāntideva: the idea that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/on-santidevas-anti-politics/">gifts benefit the recipient through the gift encounter and not the gift object</a>. I was looking at the combination of Śāntideva&#8217;s advice that material goods are harmful, and the fact that he urges one to give those gifts to others for their own benefit. Was there a way these two ideas could go together without contradicting each other? Sure enough, there was &#8211; you just had to get rid of the idea, which seems like common sense to us but not to Śāntideva, that the purpose of gift-giving is to ensure that the recipient possesses the gift. I could have shrugged my shoulders and said &#8220;well, this is a composite text, of course it contradicts itself.&#8221; But if I had, if I hadn&#8217;t taken contradiction in the important thinker as a <i>problem</i>, I wouldn&#8217;t have seen what I came to see.</p>
<p>As far as I know, it was just such an approach that led Kuhn to write his most famous work, <i>The Structure of Scientific Revolutions</i>. As a physicist, Kuhn was trying to read Aristotle&#8217;s Physics, and found it full of what appeared to be unpardonable errors in logic and observation. Just from looking at the world around him, Aristotle should have known better. Now Kuhn could easily have said &#8220;well, we all contradict ourselves and make dumb mistakes; why should we expect better of Aristotle?&#8221; But he didn&#8217;t. He <i>did</i> expect better from the thinker whose works had been taken as canonical for a thousand years, and rightly so. Once he did, it fell into place: Aristotle was asking entirely different questions, for different purposes, from the questions a Newtonian physicist would ask. Aristotle&#8217;s work would make perfect sense if one&#8217;s underlying assumptions changed.</p>
<p>More broadly, I think, it&#8217;s this search for coherence in the great and admired minds of the past that leads us to find genuinely new insights, ones that change our current perspective. In constructive study, where one seeks to learn from a tradition and not merely about it, there is always the danger that one will only find what one was already looking for &#8211; pick out the ideas one already agrees with, and not be challenged by them. One of the best ways to avoid this, to learn something genuinely new, is to focus on those &#8220;apparent absurdities,&#8221; the things that don&#8217;t make sense, and ask how somebody intelligent could have believed them. One might not come to believe in the thing one thought was absurd; but one will likely come to see the world in a new way that will challenge other ideas.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my previous discussion of Christine Korsgaard&#8217;s prologue to The Sources of Normativity, I left out one significant feature of the story she tells of Western philosophy. This is the reason &#8211; related to the basic account of excellence of obligation &#8211; why Christianity proved philosophically more powerful than Greek thought. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/value-beyond-obligation/">previous discussion</a> of Christine Korsgaard&#8217;s prologue to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=x233_0hM2OkC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=sources+of+normativity&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=DE-OQaOBrN&#038;sig=ctCmJClXQA5vrt43h7VxBrwfWdE&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=yWJtTKjoFoSKlwf0s_zYDQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=3&#038;ved=0CCIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">The Sources of Normativity</a>, I left out one significant feature of the story she tells of Western philosophy. This is the reason &#8211; related to the basic account of excellence of obligation &#8211; why Christianity proved philosophically more powerful than Greek thought. </p>
<p>On Korsgaard&#8217;s account of Greek metaphysics (à la Plato and Aristotle), goodness is a feature of reality, one more fundamental in a sense than the particular physical objects that appear before us. Perfect form is more real than imperfect matter. This is true whether, with Plato, those forms exist in a world apart from matter, or, with Aristotle, they exist within matter as its potential and <i>telos</i>.</p>
<p>But if that&#8217;s the case, Korsgaard notes, then the logical question is: why <i>aren&#8217;t</i> things perfect already? We normally think of theodicy &#8211; the problem of suffering and responses to it &#8211; as primarily a problem for Abrahamic traditions. If God is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, it&#8217;s hard to see how there can be suffering in the world (though it&#8217;s less hard to see <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/could-we-please-stop-talking-about-the-problem-of-evil/">how there can be evil</a>). But broaden the question a bit &#8211; make it &#8220;the problem of bad&#8221; &#8211; and it appears elsewhere too. For Śaṅkara&#8217;s Advaita Vedānta, in which reality is pure knowledge, it&#8217;s a conundrum to think how there can be so much ignorance. </p>
<p>And Korsgaard seems to provocatively suggest that the Christians were <i>better</i> equipped to handle the problem than the Greeks &#8211; connecting to her account of how an ethics of excellence was superseded by an ethics of obligation. <span id="more-1503"></span> The ethics of excellence, in Plato and Aristotle, remains teleological: things naturally tend toward perfection. But if this is so, how do we account for people&#8217;s all too evident <i>imperfection</i>? Aristotle tells us that a person who is well brought up will tend toward excellence; but what of those of us who aren&#8217;t? Korsgaard claims that Aristotle doesn&#8217;t say very much about them, but notes that he does say they require <i>law</i> &#8211; thus possibly laying the seeds for the fusion of Greek thought with Jewish law in Christianity. Alasdair MacIntyre, I think, would suggest that Aristotle&#8217;s teleology as it stood was rooted in the Greek <i>polis</i>, where standards of excellence were largely agreed on and socially embedded; in such a situation, most people <i>would</i> be well brought up. But as the <i>polis</i> fragmented into empire, the well-brought-up began to seem like exceptions rather than rules. And so with Greek and Roman empire we enter a world where law and obligation, rather than excellence, are the fundamental moral concepts &#8211; to the point where even a committed Aristotelian like Thomas Aquinas will express ethics above all in terms of natural <i>law</i>. (This story of the transition from Greece to Christianity, I think, parallels <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/james-doull-and-the-history-of-ethical-motivation/">the one I have attributed to James Doull</a>.)</p>
<p>Korsgaard, as I noted last time, comes out of this story noting that the modern world is more like the Christian than the Greek in a most fundamental respect. Since we see matter and not form as the most fundamental reality, we no longer see goodness and value at the heart of things. And so we can no longer accept an Aristotelian account on which things (including people) tend naturally toward their perfection; people, on a modern scientific metaphysics as well as a Christian one, are fundamentally fallen, flawed, imperfect. </p>
<p>Still, the Christian world, like the Greek, remains laden with value, with God&#8217;s goodness at its very heart. And so the problem of badness and imperfection &#8211; already a problem in Plato and Aristotle, at least on Korsgaard&#8217;s account &#8211; becomes even bigger in Christianity than it did with the Greeks.  I really don&#8217;t think monotheists ever successfully resolved the problem of suffering, to the point that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/trusting-in-man-trusting-in-god/">if an omnipotent God or creator God existed I still wouldn&#8217;t think we should put our faith in him</a>.</p>
<p>A world without value at its core is the world generally suggested by modern natural science, with the <a href="<a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/the-god-hypothesis/">hypothesis of God the creator</a> refuted by the evidence. But as I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/advaita-theodicy-and-the-goodness-of-existence/">noted before</a>, it is <i>also</i> the world suggested by Buddhism, at least before the doctrine of Buddha-nature complicates the picture. The world just is; it is indifferent to our suffering, and it&#8217;s up to us to do something about that suffering. Still, the Buddhist view does raise questions about how value comes to exist in the first place. <i>Why</i> is suffering bad, or why is it experienced as bad? How can that badness, that fact that something is wrong with suffering and we should do something about it, come to be, if goodness and badness are not somehow fundamental to the nature of reality? One might go so far as to say that Buddhists and scientists face a <i>problem of good</i>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The work of Harvard analytical ethicist Christine Korsgaard is justly renowned, for her clever attempt to reconstruct a Kantian ethics in the abstract terms of contemporary analytical moral philosophy, without the philosophy of religion and other elements of Kant&#8217;s philosophy that contemporary philosophers find hard to defend. She has received less attention for her interesting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The work of Harvard analytical ethicist <a href="http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~korsgaar/">Christine Korsgaard</a> is justly renowned, for her clever attempt to reconstruct a Kantian ethics in the abstract terms of contemporary analytical moral philosophy, without the <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kant-religion/">philosophy of religion</a> and other elements of Kant&#8217;s philosophy that contemporary philosophers find hard to defend. She has received less attention for her interesting takes on the history of Western ethics &#8211; which suggest to me some potential problems with her overall project.</p>
<p>In the prologue to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=x233_0hM2OkC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=sources+of+normativity&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=DE-OQaOBrN&#038;sig=ctCmJClXQA5vrt43h7VxBrwfWdE&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=yWJtTKjoFoSKlwf0s_zYDQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=3&#038;ved=0CCIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">The Sources of Normativity</a>, probably her most important and influential work, Korsgaard provides what she calls a &#8220;<i>very</i> concise history&#8221; (her emphasis) of the connections between metaphysics and ethics in Western philosophy. I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/two-concepts-of-altruism/">noted recently</a> that the concept of <i>obligation</i> is central to Korsgaard&#8217;s philosophy, as it is to Lévinas&#8217;s; this prologue provides us with historical reasons why an obligation-centred philosophy might be a worthwhile project.</p>
<p>Plato and Aristotle, Korsgaard notes, had a philosophy focused on excellence (<i>aretē</i>, often translated &#8220;virtue&#8221;) rather than obligation, as do most of those who today reject Kantian and utilitarian ethics and are therefore usually lumped into the catch-all category of &#8220;virtue ethics.&#8221; Their ethics had much more to do more with what is good, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/taking-back-ethics/"> what we should care about</a>, than with what others oblige us to do. But, Korsgaard adds, in Plato and Aristotle this account depends on metaphysics, on a view of the way things really are. <span id="more-1498"></span> For them, a thing&#8217;s highest perfection and potential &#8211; its form &#8211; was in some sense more real than the existing particular thing as it actually is. </p>
<p>Korsgaard correctly notes that Christianity changed Western philosophy&#8217;s emphasis, away from excellence and toward obligation and law, with God as the lawgiver. But what if we no longer assume that God is the source of ethics? What we cannot do, she says, is go back to Plato and Aristotle&#8217;s world of excellence. &#8220;Because for us, the world is no longer first and foremost form. It is <i>matter</i>.&#8221; (4) By identifying ultimate reality with matter, we have separated the real from the good; we no longer look at actual things as reflecting a higher and better potential. And this means that a Platonic or Aristotelian ethics of excellence is no longer available to us.</p>
<p>What Korsgaard does <i>not</i> say, however, is that this new, hard, scientific world is entirely bereft of value. Indeed, she sees that it cannot be. (Although she does not put it in these terms, science&#8217;s claims to truth are <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/why-we-should-ask-what-science-is/">themselves grounded in value</a>.) She says:</p>
<blockquote><p>If the real and the good are no longer one, value must find its way into the world somehow. Form must be imposed on the world of matter. This is the work of art, the work of obligation, and it brings us back to Kant. And this is what we should expect. For it was Kant who completed the revolution, when he said that reason — which is form — isn&#8217;t in the world, but is something that we impose upon it. The ethics of autonomy is the only one consistent with the metaphysics of the modern world, and the ethics of autonomy is an ethics of obligation. (5)</p></blockquote>
<p>Now I think there is something very wrong with this paragraph. Korsgaard has accepted that value has a real place in the world, even the world of a modern scientific metaphysics; and she then claims that value&#8217;s place in the world is one of obligation (as opposed, by implication, to excellence). The next parts of the book flesh out her account of the ethics of obligation, but let us leave that aside for the moment. Let us assume for now that Korsgaard, in the rest of the book, succeeds in founding ethics on obligation. Isn&#8217;t there still something missing? </p>
<p>Korsgaard&#8217;s account of value, as provided here, derives that value <i>only</i> from obligation. If her account in the rest of the book were correct, it might be the case that all <i>moral</i> value comes from obligation. But is that the only kind of value in the world? Korsgaard never tries to argue that, and it&#8217;s hard to see how she could. She opens the prologue by saying: &#8220;It is the most striking fact about human life that we have values. We think of ways that things could be better, more perfect, and so of course different, than they are; and of ways that we ourselves could be better, more perfect, and so of course different, than we are.&#8221; (1) But <i>things</i> are not obliged to do or be anything, certainly not on any Kantian account of morality. Indeed if one were to imagine obligation being applied to things, it would likely have to be on something like the Greek teleological metaphysics that Korsgaard explicitly rejects: it is the purpose of a knife to cut well, therefore it is that knife&#8217;s duty to cut well. </p>
<p>There is, then, a yawning gap in Korsgaard&#8217;s historical account of value, <i>even if</i> we take her account of morality and obligation to be true. At a minimum, this ethics must be accompanied by an <i>aesthetics</i>. Some accounts of ethics &#8211; including those <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/taking-back-ethics/">I&#8217;m most sympathetic with</a> &#8211; do not restrict their concern to morality in the strict sense, and might therefore include aesthetics, but this appears not to be the case with Korsgaard&#8217;s. And while Korsgaard&#8217;s quote above tantalizingly lists &#8220;the work of art&#8221; along with &#8220;the work of obligation&#8221; above, suggesting the importance of aesthetics, it seems on a fuller reading that this is only apparent: when she uses the word &#8220;art&#8221; elsewhere in this passage, she contrasts it with what is natural, and so appears to mean only &#8220;artifice,&#8221; the <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/xunzi/">Xunzian</a> point that we are not naturally good but need to work on it. </p>
<p>And so it seems that aesthetics, at least, is missing from Korsgaard&#8217;s account. Just as we need an account of how people&#8217;s actions can be right and wrong, so we need an account of how things can be beautiful and ugly. Kant did not have this problem since he had a <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/kantaest/">highly developed aesthetics</a>, but it is not clear whether Korsgaard buys it. But it would seem, on Korsgaard&#8217;s account, that one must either adopt something very much like Kant&#8217;s aesthetics (as she does with his ethics) or return in some respect to a semi-premodern metaphysical account that sees value in the world while still taking science into consideration &#8211; as <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hegel/">Hegel</a> tried to do, for example. If one takes this latter route with aesthetics, however, it would seem that one is compelled to do so with ethics too.</p>
<p>I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/two-concepts-of-altruism/">recently noted</a> the strong similarities between Korsgaard&#8217;s philosophy of obligation and that of Emmanuel Lévinas. Lévinas, in one of his better-known essays, tells us that &#8220;ethics is first philosophy&#8221; &#8211; and by &#8220;ethics&#8221; he means obligation. But, I&#8217;m told, Speculative Realist <a href="http://doctorzamalek2.wordpress.com/">Graham Harman</a> retorts that &#8220;<i>aesthetics</i> is first philosophy.&#8221; I&#8217;m wondering if issues like this are what Harman has in mind: we don&#8217;t just need an account of moral value, we need an account of value as such. </p>
<p>In his <a href="http://speculumcriticum.blogspot.com/2010/06/eternity-and-objects.html">excellent post</a> which quotes Harman to this effect, Skholiast adds a quote from Wittgenstein that &#8220;Ethics and aesthetics are one.&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure I would go that far; but it seems to me that there must be some sort of connection between the two, a connection that Korsgaard implies only to ignore. We could, I suppose, say that <i>axiology</i> is first philosophy &#8211; &#8220;axiology&#8221; meaning the study of value &#8211; though that phrase doesn&#8217;t sound nearly as cutting as either Lévinas&#8217;s or Harman&#8217;s.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Catholic Pauls, it seems clear to me, oppose ethical egoism in strong terms. Interestingly, however, they do not spend much time attacking it; instead, they attack a kind of altruism that is very different from their own. And their positions interest me greatly because of the way it highlights differences among philosophical concepts of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/010/08/the-catholic-pauls-against-nondualism/">Catholic Pauls</a>, it seems clear to me, oppose ethical egoism in strong terms. Interestingly, however, they do not spend much time attacking it; instead, they attack a kind of altruism that is very different from their own. And their positions interest me greatly because of the way it highlights differences among philosophical concepts of altruism. </p>
<p>Ethical egoism of some description &#8211; say, as advocated by <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/epicur/">Epicurus</a> &#8211; is a perfectly respectable philosophical position. One can say that one&#8217;s reasons to benefit others are all ultimately based on benefit to oneself, if one&#8217;s own self-interest is rightly understood. Neither Paul has a great deal of sympathy for this position, as far as I can tell, but it is not what they take as a target for their attack.</p>
<p>Rather, they reserve their greatest ire for a position that derives other-orientation from ātmanism &#8211; or at least from nondualism. <span id="more-1473"></span> Though Śāntideva is the last to believe in an ātman, he, like Vivekānanda, nevertheless gets to altruism by deconstructing the self, saying the differences we perceive between selves are not ultimately real. Śaṅkara and Buddhaghosa would likewise have taken the first step and deconstructed the self, saying the different human selves we perceive are; but what they would <i>not</i> have done would have been to take this as a justification for altruism. As with Epicurus, our primary goal needs to be our own liberation from suffering. This conclusion, the Pauls take as logically acceptable, though they disagree with it. </p>
<p>But the next step that Śāntideva and Vivekānanda take and Śaṅkara and Buddhaghosa do not &#8211; to say that Epicurean egoism is not acceptable <i>because</i> the individual self it defends is unreal &#8211; is a step too far, in the Paul&#8217;s eyes. For by deconstructing egoism, they reason, Śāntideva and Vivekānanda also effectively deconstruct altruism. (Williams&#8217;s chapter is entitled &#8220;How Śāntideva destroyed the bodhisattva path&#8221;!) If there is no self, there can be no other about which to be concerned; nor can there even be suffering to be prevented.</p>
<p>But neither Paul says this because they wish to advocate an Epicurean egoism, to take us back to the egoistic nondualism of a Śaṅkara. They want us to be altruistic &#8211; but only on the right grounds, and these grounds are grounds of <i>encounter</i>. For there to be real altruism, there must be real others; and therefore altruism must come out of encounter and not out of ātmanism or nondualism. </p>
<p>And while up to now I&#8217;ve discussed this issue in the sectarian terms of Catholics attacking Buddhists, I think the distinction made here also shows up in contemporary analytical ethics. <a href="http://as.nyu.edu/object/aboutas.globalprofessor.derekparfit">Derek Parfit</a> has argued for altruism on grounds which even he identified as analogous Buddhist non-self &#8211; the self is not a real entity from moment to moment, and so we should not privilege it over others. Mark Siderits has recently taken up, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ByGXPzG1F9AC&#038;pg=PR11&#038;lpg=PR11&#038;dq=mark+siderits+derek+parfit&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=Uw0YOkfEDu&#038;sig=hqGOGKo3Qq7iSvjLiYaAiLMkBc0&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=BoRYTNGzDcapngfs7LGDCQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=3&#038;ved=0CCAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&#038;q=mark%20siderits%20derek%20parfit&#038;f=false">at book length</a>, the similarities between Parfit&#8217;s view and those of Buddhist thinkers like Śāntideva.</p>
<p>I used to think there were close similarities between Parfit&#8217;s (and Śāntideva&#8217;s) view and that of <a href="http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~korsgaar/">Christine Korsgaard</a>, who &#8211; like them &#8211; argues that full-blown egoism is not rational. But the Catholic Pauls pushed me to see the differences between them. For Korsgaard criticizes egoism in a very different way, one that they could endorse.</p>
<p>Korsgaard, it turns out, does not deconstruct the ego itself &#8211; only ego<i>ism</i>. The self, on her account, is quite real; but its reasons for action are not fundamentally egoistic. In everyday life, &#8220;We do not seem to need a reason to take the reasons of others into account. We seem to need a reason not to. Certainly we do things because others want us to, ask us to, tell us to, all the time&#8230;. We respond with the alacrity of obedient soldiers to telephones and doorbell and cries for help.&#8221; (<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=oOdovrGKYWoC&#038;dq=sources+normativity&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bn&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=B65ZTPzLFITjnAfahrXiCA&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=4&#038;ved=0CCsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">The Sources of Normativity</a> 140-1) Korsgaard tries to argue that reasons for action are public in their very nature; each individual&#8217;s reasons for acting are not separate from the reasons of other individuals. And one of the fundamental ways in which reasons apply to others is <i>obligation</i>, which comes out of respect for others&#8217; humanity or personhood. If I am blithely torturing a stranger (Korsgaard&#8217;s example, derived from Thomas Nagel) and the stranger asks &#8220;How would you like it if I did that to you?&#8221; I can continue to torture the stranger, but not in the way I did before, for the stranger has now obligated me. </p>
<p>There are very strong echoes here &#8211; possibly uninentional &#8211; of Emmanuel Lévinas, the Jewish archetypical philosopher of obligation and encounter. Obligation is not a concept that shows up in Śāntideva &#8211; or, for that matter, in Aristotle. Korsgaard&#8217;s own introduction notes that it was the Christians &#8211; surely under the influence of Jewish law tradition &#8211; who began to move the mainstream of Western philosophy away from concepts of excellence (or virtue) and toward concepts of obligation. And this obligation always seems to be an obligation toward someone irreducibly different from oneself. The Advaitic ātman might have good reason to reduce its own ignorance, but it is not <i>obligated</i> to do so. </p>
<p>So, leaving aside egoistic philosophies for the moment, we can draw boundaries between two quite different justifications for altruism, two different ways in which egoism can be considered an error. In Korsgaard, Lévinas and I think the Catholic Pauls, we get an encounter variety of altruism, where each separate and individual self is in part constituted by binding obligations to others (whether other people or God). Whereas in Śāntideva, Parfit and Vivekānanda, we get a nondualist variety of altruism, one based on the idea that the selves themselves are not really real. The Catholic Pauls attack the second because they wish to move us toward the first.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wedding approaches rapidly, and with my love of philosophy it&#8217;s important for me to have profound and meaningful readings at the ceremony. We have each picked a modern reading that meant a lot to us &#8211; she from Walt Whitman, and I from Max Ehrmann&#8217;s Desiderata, beautiful advice from when I was a child. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/confucius-in-a-pouffy-white-dress/">wedding</a> approaches rapidly, and with my love of philosophy it&#8217;s important for me to have profound and meaningful readings at the ceremony. We have each picked a modern reading that meant a lot to us &#8211; she from Walt Whitman, and I from Max Ehrmann&#8217;s <a href="http://www.fleurdelis.com/desiderata.htm">Desiderata</a>, beautiful advice from when I was a child. But I also wanted to find meaningful premodern readings, and that turned out to be a lot harder.</p>
<p>The problem I quickly realized is that romantic marriage is a recent invention, a construct of our own time. It was obvious to me from the beginning that I&#8217;d get little help from Indian Buddhism, where sex and marriage are emphasized as fetters that bind us in suffering. I knew that to choose marriage was <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/09/why-im-getting-married/">to side against Śāntideva</a>. Sure, Śāntideva praises the monk Jyotis for breaking his monastic vows and marrying a woman who fell in love with him &#8211; but Jyotis, like a good bodhisattva, did this entirely out of compassion. &#8220;I&#8217;m marrying you out of sympathy&#8221; is not exactly the note on which I want to start married life. <span id="more-1395"></span></p>
<p>Classical Buddhism is an ascetic tradition through and through, as uncomfortable as such asceticism might make us today. But then much the same can be said about classical Christianity, at least as expressed in Paul&#8217;s New Testament writings. &#8220;Better to marry than to burn&#8221;: marriage is a third-best option, not as good as converting to celibacy as Paul did, let alone lifelong celibacy. It is good only because it prevents the worse option, of being led around by sexual lust. For this reason I tend to chafe a bit when I hear the standard wedding reading of <a href="http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-4.htm">1 Corinthians</a>: &#8220;Love is patient, love is kind,&#8221; and so on. Paul is not even talking about familial love, let alone romantic love; that&#8217;s the last thing on his mind. He&#8217;s talking about <i>agape</i>, compassion, close to Buddhist <i>karuṇā</i>. The King James Bible makes the point well when it renders the passage with &#8220;charity&#8221; rather than &#8220;love.&#8221; </p>
<p>But what about the non-ascetic traditions? Clearly <i>some</i> premoderns gave an unqualified endorsement to married life, even if the classical Buddhists and Christians did not. Indeed they did &#8211; but marriage so viewed was a very different thing. I touched on the point in my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/confucius-in-a-pouffy-white-dress/">previous post about weddings</a>, but it&#8217;s worth coming back to. Traditionally, marriage was not about the couple, it was about the community and its continuity, arranged by parents for the sake of producing and raising new children. And it was often the wife&#8217;s job to raise the children and the husband&#8217;s to provide materially &#8211; or sometimes the job of the extended family, if both were working. This is the married relationship that Confucius praises; but it is not our marriage. We fell in love without our families&#8217; involvement, and we do not intend to have children. All of my family members are hundreds of miles away; hers do not live with us. To top it off, for the moment, she is our breadwinner while I am unemployed and taking care of the household. When classical Jewish or Confucian texts endorse marriage, it is for reasons far removed from ours. While <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/confucius-in-a-pouffy-white-dress/">I&#8217;ve said that</a> weddings always imply a certain amount of traditionalism, to most traditional audiences our marriage looks a lot more like <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/the-three-basic-ways-of-life/">libertinism</a>.</p>
<p>So the best premodern texts for a modern marriage are likely those which are <i>not about marriage</i>. The last time I got married, we read <a href="http://philosophy.suite101.com/article.cfm/pausanias_and_the_double_nature_of_aphrodite">Pausanias&#8217;s speech</a> from Plato&#8217;s <a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/symposium.html">Symposium</a>, arguing that the best kind of love is pursued for the cultivation of virtue. A great and noble sentiment, and here we are talking about a love closer to modern romantic love &#8211; sexually charged <i>eros</i>, not compassionate <i>agape</i>. A good reading, but worth remembering that the <i>eros</i> that&#8217;s at issue here is the love Plato knew, between an older man and a younger boy. The dialogue never even entertains the idea that a married couple would feel <i>eros</i> for each other.</p>
<p>So likewise the <a href="http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3001.htm">Song of Songs</a>, that Hebrew text that has made so many wonder &#8220;why is this in the Bible?&#8221; Not being constrained in our interpretations by tradition, we don&#8217;t need to take the strained reading of the text as an allegory for God&#8217;s love for the church. We can read it literally for what it is, the erotic passion of two heterosexual lovers, in a text that is nevertheless ancient and passed down by tradition. The text never says these lovers are married; in their time, they probably wouldn&#8217;t have been. But their love is much more like ours than is Paul&#8217;s <i>agape</i>, Śāntideva&#8217;s <i>karuṇā</i>, or the community- and family-oriented Confucian marriage. And so we are having a selection from this text sung at our wedding.</p>
<p>The other premodern reading we&#8217;ll have at the wedding is the short closing lines of the Rig Veda (X.191.4): &#8220;May your aim be one and single / May your hands be joined in one / The mind at rest in unison / At peace with all, so may you be.&#8221; It is also not about marriage in its original context, but about unity among Agni worshippers; and the translation is quite loose. In these respects I suppose it&#8217;s really no better than the Corinthians. But my father has regularly sent it as a wedding blessing to most of the couples we know who have married in my lifetime. So it&#8217;s become part of our own family tradition, in a way, as well as being an appropriate wish expressed in beautiful English. And all of that matters.</p>
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<p>This will be my last post for a couple weeks &#8211; because of the wedding, of course! The next week and a half will be frenetic with wedding planning, and after that we are having a week&#8217;s honeymoon in New Orleans. (We had intended to go further afield, but immigration issues intervened; we expect to take a longer honeymoon this winter.) Blogging will take a back seat during this period. If I am seized by the urge to write about something topical, it&#8217;s possible that there may be a post in the interim; but I expect the blog&#8217;s writing to resume on the first of August.</p>
<p>Naturally, comments will remain open during this period; I&#8217;m happy that some lively discussions have got going here recently and I would be delighted if they continue. Before I pause, I would like to say a word of thanks to all my commenters and regular readers. You have made writing this blog a tremendously rewarding experience for me, and I look forward to resuming it in August.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking some more about the idea of encounter, which I blogged about in these posts and which I take to be central to the philosophy of Emmanuel Lévinas: the idea that we can never encompass the wholeness of truth, it must remain irreducibly other to us. I&#8217;m wondering whether the basic idea animating [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking some more about the idea of encounter, which I blogged about in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilbers-atmanism-vs-the-saints-encounter/">these</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/nishidas-encounter/">posts</a> and which I take to be central to the philosophy of <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/levinas/">Emmanuel Lévinas</a>: the idea that we can never encompass the wholeness of truth, it must remain irreducibly other to us. I&#8217;m wondering whether the basic idea animating encounter philosophies is the virtue of humility &#8211; a virtue, I think, in both epistemological and ethical contexts. Aristotle, on the other hand, saw pride as a virtue, modesty as its lack &#8211; and while I do think humility is a virtue myself, I would remain an Aristotelian in seeing humility, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/justice-as-a-mean/">like justice</a>, as a mean. It is far too easy to be too humble in action, to be servile and self-abnegating &#8211; an excess which, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/justice-as-a-mean/">I&#8217;ve suggested before</a>, hurts women&#8217;s struggle for equality. And with respect to knowledge, too little humility can lead us to an <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/following-science-as-a-layperson/">inappropriate feeling of certainty</a>; but realizing that lack of certainty can spur us to too <i>much</i> humility, leading us into a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/what-does-postmodernism-perform/">self-contradictory</a> denial of truth and knowledge.</p>
<p>The issue surrounding encounter, in that case, goes well beyond one&#8217;s relationship with God, even one&#8217;s relationship with other human beings. <span id="more-1388"></span> Like the question of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/why-should-we-do-anything/">internalism and externalism</a>, it hits deep issues both theoretical and practical, though from a different angle. And I suspect this is why the question is so pervasive throughout the Western monotheisms.</p>
<p>An <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilbers-atmanism-vs-the-saints-encounter/">earlier post on the subject</a> noted the debate within Indian Sufism, between ibn Arabi&#8217;s <i>wahdat al-wujūd</i> and Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindī&#8217;s <i>wahdat ash-shuhūd</i>. But what was new in India with Sirhindī was only that the debate happened within Sufism &#8211; Sirhindī was the first <i>Sufi</i> to articulate the idea of irreducible encounter, the opposition to pantheism. Opponents of the Sufis had been putting forth that idea for a long time before that. Perhaps most famously there was the case of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansur_Al-Hallaj">al-Hallāj</a>, the tenth-century Persian Sufi, who in in his state of mystical experience proclaimed <i>anā&#8217;l ḥaqq</i>, &#8220;I am the truth!&#8221; <i>Al-ḥaqq</i>, &#8220;the truth,&#8221; was one of the traditional 99 Muslim names of God; for saying that he was God, al-Hallāj was swiftly put to death. </p>
<p>Non-Sufi Islam, it seems to me, stresses the gulf between God and man as a way of maintaining human humility. Stephen Prothero&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/God-Not-One-World-Differences/dp/006157127X">popular new book on religious difference</a> identifies pride as the central problem in Islam, comparable to sin in Christianity or suffering in Buddhism. I suspect this is why Muslims lay so much stress on <i>tawhīd</i>, God&#8217;s inviolable unity, and treat <i>shirk</i> &#8211; idolatry or &#8220;associating partners with God&#8221; &#8211; as a cardinal sin. To raise anything in the physical world to God&#8217;s level is to assume an arrogant knowledge of God. In the early days of Islam, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu'tazili">Mu&#8217;tazila</a> school, relying on this idea of <i>tawhīd</i>, had argued that the Qur&#8217;an was a created object like anything else perceptible, and so one should read it with a rationalistic and allegorical eye. To read it as literal and inerrant would be arrogant, idolatrously taking the Qur&#8217;an as a partner with God. But one of the reasons the Mu&#8217;tazila became a minority position was that their view was used to license human arrogance: the caliph, the human ruler, had no limits on his power if he could take the Qur&#8217;an as meaning something different from what it literally said.</p>
<p>It has been my sense that, while there has been some suspicion of Christian mysticism through the ages, it was not persecuted within Christianity as strongly as the Sufis were within Islam. I think this is because official Christianity has drawn the line between God and man far less sharply than has official Islam (and I suspect official Judaism). What defined the Christianity accepted as orthodox in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed">Nicene Creed</a> was that God had in fact become man. This idea of God-become-man is, as I understand it, what <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/james-doull-and-the-history-of-ethical-motivation/">James Doull</a> finds most significant about Christianity: in it, objective truth (God) and subjective humanity can be united. The idea of God as man has been accepted by all the major strains of Christianity since then &#8211; Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant &#8211; but in its time it had seemed absurd to many if not most. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism">Arians</a> took a more traditionally Jewish view, that Jesus was merely a prophet, a teacher, an exemplary human being. To say that he was more than that would be impossible, for it would identify perfect God with imperfect humanity. Their foes the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docetism">Docetists</a> took the exact opposite view: that Jesus was purely God all the time and was never actually human. Despite being at opposite ends of the spectrum, the Arians and Docetists shared the view that no man could ever be perfect enough to be God.</p>
<p>Go to India, on the other hand, and the view is vastly different. There, to identify human and God is commonplace. It&#8217;s not just that God <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/seeing-gods-form/">takes a physical form</a>, in a way scandalous to Muslims. Many traditions &#8211; especially Jainism and Yoga &#8211; are all about becoming godlike, taking on superhuman powers and transcending the universe. And most prominently, in Śaṅkara&#8217;s Advaita Vedānta, we all already <i>are</i> God, we just don&#8217;t know it. For this reason, <a href="http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/">Nicholas Gier</a> takes these mainstream Indian traditions as examples of what he calls <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=U6t2UdyNkngC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=spiritual+titanism&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=PUFJVszAV2&#038;sig=LYnwV0vBUh72b2OTBSXhBu8DDqo&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=PZQrTJitA8L6lwfq5eyDCA&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=2&#038;ved=0CBoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">spiritual Titanism</a>: worrying attempts to make man into God. Gier clearly thinks that Titanism is a bad thing. He doesn&#8217;t explicitly argue the case against it, but he returns repeatedly to environmental crises: human beings have tried to become godlike in their attempts to master nature, and now we are paying the price. Here, the problem of human arrogance appears again with an ecological cast.</p>
<p>My own position on all this goes back to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/trusting-in-man-trusting-in-god/">this post</a>. I agree with the orthodox monotheists that humans are fallen creatures, not worthy of deification. In Buddhist terms, this is why I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/09/one-and-a-half-noble-truths/">denied the Third Noble Truth</a>: I have not met anyone I would consider awakened (&#8220;enlightened&#8221;) in this lifetime, and could not imagine becoming awakened in this life myself; and I also don&#8217;t believe in rebirth, so I don&#8217;t see our perfection as possible after this life. We are deeply flawed creatures and must always remain aware of those deep flaws; that&#8217;s why humility is important. </p>
<p><i>But</i>. Unlike the monotheists, I don&#8217;t see any reason to prefer God to man. For in my view any capital-G God, any god that has created the world or is omnipotent, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/trusting-in-man-trusting-in-god/">cannot be taken as a model of moral perfection</a>. God&#8217;s track record as revealed in the world is no better than ours; his track record in scripture and tradition is often worse.</p>
<p>And all this, in the end, takes me back to the Aristotelian mean. We must be humble enough to recognize our deep flaws; but not so humble that we submit ourselves wholly to another entity with flaws as thoroughgoing as ours (or close to it). We cannot fully trust ourselves; but we have no choice but to trust ourselves to some extent. The line is difficult to walk, but no genuine virtue is ever easy.</p>
<p>EDIT (11 Jul 2010): The original version of this post claimed that James Doull was an Anglican preacher. A former student of his informed me that he wasn&#8217;t, although he was always a believing Christian and belonged to an Anglican community in his later life. A number of his students and grand-students became Anglican priests, however, and that&#8217;s probably where my confusion arose.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I closed my post about Peimin Ni&#8217;s gongfu with an important argument of Ni&#8217;s, which I didn&#8217;t have the space to address there. I had been arguing against Ni&#8217;s ends-relativist viewpoint, in which philosophies were judged by their pragmatic effectiveness. Ni made a vital point in response: he noted that I was myself arguing merely [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I closed <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/a-relativist-gongfu-ethics/">my post about Peimin Ni&#8217;s <i>gongfu</i></a> with an important argument of Ni&#8217;s, which I didn&#8217;t have the space to address there. I had been arguing against Ni&#8217;s ends-relativist viewpoint, in which philosophies were judged by their pragmatic effectiveness. Ni made a vital point in response: he noted that I was myself arguing merely based on pragmatic effectiveness, and not on the grounds of the larger metaphysical truth I hope to proclaim. He was absolutely right about this &#8211; but it is by design. <span id="more-1350"></span></p>
<p>What is at stake on this point is a crucial feature of any foundationalist position &#8211; that is, a position that relies on basic first principles, such as the existence of truth, and not merely on pragmatic effectiveness. Any such position relies in its logic on the difference between demonstrative and dialectical argument &#8211; that is, between arguments <i>from</i> first principles and arguments <i>to</i> first principles. (I take the distinction from a short and helpful discussion on pp. 88-9 of Alasdair MacIntyre&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Three-Rival-Versions-Moral-Enquiry/dp/0268018774">Three Rival Versions of Moral Inquiry</a>.) This distinction is what that the young Socrates at first fails to grasp in Plato&#8217;s <a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/parmenides.html">Parmenides</a>: because Zeno&#8217;s arguments show the flaws in others&#8217; positions, Socrates sees them only as sophistry rather than as what they are, namely dialectical arguments knocking down others&#8217; premises in order to establish the truth of Parmenides&#8217;s view. The young Socrates knows only demonstrative argument, and not dialectical argument. In an anti-foundationalist position like Ni&#8217;s (or Richard Rorty&#8217;s), where there are no first principles, there is the opposite: only dialectical argument, and no demonstrative. </p>
<p>The point: One cannot deduce conclusions from first principles (demonstrative argument) with someone who does not share those principles. Rather, one must argue from the assumptions and principles of one&#8217;s interlocutor, in order to show that the interlocutor&#8217;s position is flawed and one&#8217;s own is preferable (dialectical argument). Only by doing so can one arrive at anything like a foundationalist position in the first place. No foundationalist that I am aware of has ever tried to argue otherwise. Even Descartes doesn&#8217;t <i>begin</i> his argument with <i>cogito ergo sum</i>; rather, he begins both the <i>Meditations</i> and the <i>Discourse</i> with everyday commonsense knowledge and why it isn&#8217;t good enough. The first principles &#8211; the existence of truth or self &#8211; are first only <i>logically</i>; they do not come first <i>chronologically</i>, in argument or in human development. And the question on which a foundationalist position stands or falls is whether the foundationalist can show his interlocutor&#8217;s position to be flawed enough that it merits abandoning in favour of one more like his own. In the case at hand, I believe that I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/a-relativist-gongfu-ethics/">have done this</a> &#8211; argued why a position based entirely on pragmatic effectiveness will fail on the grounds of pragmatic effectiveness. </p>
<p>I tried to do the same in my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/what-does-postmodernism-perform/">arguments against postmodernism</a>. It does little good to argue that postmodernism is false or contradicts itself, and therefore fails on my terms. It is far more important to argue that postmodernism&#8217;s performative effects are neutral or worse, so that it fails on its own terms.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his talk at the conference this year, SACP president Peimin Ni pushed further on the claim he made last year: the idea of philosophy as a technique. I was fortunate to spend a long and enjoyable lunch discussing the talk and its ideas with him further. (I love the SACP conferences because their format [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his talk at the conference this year, SACP president Peimin Ni pushed further on the claim he made last year: the idea of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/when-is-a-philosophy-a-technique/">philosophy as a technique</a>. I was fortunate to spend a long and enjoyable lunch discussing the talk and its ideas with him further. (I love the SACP conferences because their format is designed to encourage the emergence of mealtime conversations like this; last year I enjoyed a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/defending-consciousness/">similarly thoughtful discussion with Ted Slingerland</a>.) The present post recounts the ideas expressed at the lunch, naturally from my own side; I hope I am being fair to Ni&#8217;s arguments in what follows.</p>
<p>Ni&#8217;s talk focused on the Chinese concept of <i>gongfu</i> 功夫, dating from the early centuries CE and meaning any practical art &#8211; it could include calligraphy, sports, cooking, good judgement or statecraft. (Although the word <i>gongfu</i> has long ago passed into English with an alternate spelling, it is probably best to keep using the Pinyin spelling rather than confuse people with a term most associate with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Panda">goofy movies about roundhouse kicks</a>.) </p>
<p><i>Gongfu</i> as Ni understands it then bears some resemblance to the Greek concept of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techne">technē</a>, or Alasdair MacIntyre&#8217;s concept of practice, with one crucial difference. Aristotle&#8217;s <i>technē</i> involves a <i>telos</i>; it is embedded within a larger determinate framework of human flourishing. With <i>gongfu</i>, on the other hand, Ni agreed with my earlier characterization of the process as a technique. It is open to us to choose our aims; <i>gongfu</i> merely allows us to achieve those aims. There is a <i>gongfu</i> of killing as well as a <i>gongfu</i> of saving. <span id="more-1341"></span> (Ni effectively uses the concept to expand his <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/when-is-a-philosophy-a-technique/">previous characterization of Mencius</a> into a constructive position.)</p>
<p>Ni urges us to a conception of practical philosophy in which <i>gongfu</i>, thus conceived, takes centre stage. Theoretical philosophy, especially metaphysics, then serves the function not of description but of recommendation. Philosophy is a way of achieving our chosen ends, a set of instructions rather than responsibilities. Philosophies, like other practices, can be evaluated as techniques &#8211; on their effectiveness at achieving their aims.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a word for the kind of philosophy Ni is describing, and it&#8217;s relativism. Ni&#8217;s <i>gongfu</i> is not relativistic with respect to means; a philosophy can be discredited if it fails to achieve its goals. It is, however, entirely relativistic with respect to ends; ultimate ends are up to our decisions and choices, and there is no rational basis on which to criticize them. The value of each <i>gongfu</i> is relative to the incommensurable ends it aims to achieve.</p>
<p>As such, Ni&#8217;s approach seems vulnerable to the standard criticisms levelled at relativism. One asks: does this philosophy have any grounds on which to criticize evil actions &#8211; of which we might often take Adolf Hitler&#8217;s as the paradigm? Ni&#8217;s first answer was, to my mind, entirely unsatisfactory: that Hitler&#8217;s project failed on its own terms, that he committed suicide and ended his life in misery. This claim is of course true as far as it goes, but it doesn&#8217;t go far. It is not too difficult to imagine a Hitler who succeeded, perhaps by reining in his ambitions a little bit and maintaining the Nazi-Soviet pact. Such a Hitler, maintaining his reign of terror for decades or more, seems <i>worse</i> than the Hitler we know.</p>
<p>Ni then proceeded to offer a strong perspectival defence of sorts: criticism would be part of our own <i>gongfu</i>. We can criticize Hitler from our side, within our own ends; we can and should take this a step further and <i>fight</i> him. Action against Hitler is a part of achieving <i>our</i> aims; it&#8217;s just that there&#8217;s no objective ground from which to criticize him. </p>
<p>Against such a view, I developed some of the arguments I made in my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/what-does-postmodernism-perform/">critique of postmodernism</a>. Relativism privileges the strong. It is no coincidence that Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. believed in universal, objective truths; for it was only on such a basis that they could nonviolently shame their oppressors into relenting. Imagine King standing up and proclaiming: &#8220;I have a dream that my children will one day live in freedom and justice and brotherhood. But I know that you have a dream of maintaining this world of segregation, and I know that objectively my dream is no better than yours. So I will fight for my dream, and you fight for yours.&#8221; If civil rights leaders had all talked that way, even <i>thought</i> that way, it&#8217;s easy to imagine the South remaining segregated for centuries. </p>
<p>Moral persuasion works by imagining ideals larger than one person&#8217;s given ends. Without it, there is only violent persuasion, persuasion by force &#8211; which, by definition, favours the strong. It is no accident that the most powerfully expressed relativist position in Plato&#8217;s <i>Republic</i> &#8211; the one which ends on a note of &#8220;you have your position, Socrates, and I have mine&#8221; &#8211; is expressed by Thrasymachus, who has argued that justice is merely the interest of the stronger. Without an ability to cross paradigms and argue about ends, the interest of the stronger is what prevails. When the weak prevailed and achieved a more just world, as they did in Gandhi&#8217;s and King&#8217;s cases, they could only do so because they had on their side a conception of the good beyond their own limited paradigms, one which had a binding authority on everyone.</p>
<p>Knowing this point, those aiming for change could certainly try to lie &#8211; to proclaim universal ideals they did not themselves believe in, as itself part of the technique, the <i>gongfu</i>, for achieving their individually derived goals. (I believe that <a href="http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Spivak.html">Gayatri Spivak</a> has argued for a &#8220;strategic essentialism&#8221; that bears a strong resemblance to this approach.) An outsider might refer to such a person as a liar and a hypocrite, but such outside criticisms do not of themselves need to bear any weight on the relativist individual who disregards outsiders&#8217; ends. More important is that such an approach can itself be rather self-defeating &#8211; public figures aiming for social change have their words and actions relentlessly dissected and examined. If King or Gandhi had really believed that what they were doing was only best for them and not universal &#8211; but proclaimed the opposite &#8211; their lies would have stood a good chance of being exposed.</p>
<p>Or, pushing the point further, one might even try hard to <i>believe</i> in a universalist view in order to advance one&#8217;s own pragmatic goals. Ni&#8217;s interpretation of Mencius (about which I hope to say more) suggested such an approach: rather than deriving one&#8217;s ethical or political practice from a metaphysics of the world&#8217;s nature, one starts with the practice and employs the metaphysics as a part of it. So one might try to take on a universalist metaphysics in order to advance one&#8217;s pragmatic goals, even though one is convinced that there is no such universal metaphysics that transcends each individual&#8217;s given ends. I have somewhat more sympathy for this possibility, as I have explored a similar possibility with respect to hedonism. But I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/04/paradoxes-of-hedonism/">concluded there</a> that such an attempt is self-defeating. More generally, from a commonsense point of view, it is bad to believe things one knows to be false; from a philosophical point of view, it is bad to avoid thinking too hard lest one think the wrong things. More specifically, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/01/why-worry-about-contradictions/">contradictions get in the way of one&#8217;s own practice</a>, whether personal or political: when one believes a contradiction, one cannot &#8211; pretty much by definition &#8211; believe either side of the contradiction wholeheartedly. It is much more difficult to fight for justice (or anything else) when one is already at war with oneself, for such a fight must be fought on two fronts.</p>
<p>Ni made one final reply before the lunch ended: he noted that I was myself arguing merely based on pragmatic effectiveness, not on the grounds of the larger metaphysical truth I hope to proclaim. He was absolutely right about this, I think, but in a way that does not undercut my position. I&#8217;ve said a lot here already; this point deserves enough attention that I will save it for another post.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Five years ago, on a language fellowship in India, I had more time to do broad reading in cross-cultural philosophy than grad school usually permitted. I wound up reading a lot of Ken Wilber, and had already been immersed in Martha Nussbaum&#8217;s thought for my dissertation. These two thinkers don&#8217;t have a whole lot in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five years ago, on a language fellowship in India, I had more time to do broad reading in cross-cultural philosophy than grad school usually permitted. I wound up reading a lot of Ken Wilber, and had already been immersed in Martha Nussbaum&#8217;s thought for my dissertation. These two thinkers don&#8217;t have a whole lot in common, beyond coming out of roughly the same (American baby boom) cultural milieu and having an unusually wide-ranging philosophical outlook. But there is one set of categories that features prominently in both of their work, and I suspect for good reason: <i>ascent and descent</i>.</p>
<p>For Wilber, one of the most fundamental philosophical debates is that between Ascent and Descent: between a spiritual view that aspires to transcendence of the everyday material world, and a materialist view that embraces it. (Like the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/intimacy-and-integrity/">intimacy-integrity distinction</a> &#8211; on which more shortly &#8211; the distinction is particularly interesting because it embraces theoretical as well as practical philosophy, metaphysics as well as ethics.) Some of Wilber&#8217;s sharpest criticisms are directed against ecological philosophies of interdependence, which suggest that what we ultimately need is to embrace our mutual dependence in the natural world. In Wilber&#8217;s eyes, such a view leaves us scarcely better off than the mechanistic individualism it aims to replace, for both views remain squarely within a materialist tradition of &#8220;descent,&#8221; neglecting the spiritual realm. I have noted before that, while <a href="http://http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/yavanayana-buddhism-what-it-is/">Yavanayāna</a> Buddhists often embrace such views of interdependence, they are <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/buddhists-against-interdependence/">wildly at odds with traditional Indian Buddhism</a>, for reasons similar to those noted by Wilber.</p>
<p><i>Upheavals of Thought</i>, the weighty tome that I would consider Nussbaum&#8217;s <i>magnum opus</i>, employs such a distinction through its third, longest and final part &#8211; entitled &#8220;<i>Ascents</i> of Love.&#8221; <span id="more-1315"></span> This part of the book explores a strikingly wide range of Western perspectives on partial love (as opposed to universal compassion), and especially erotic or romantic love &#8211; from Spinoza&#8217;s <i>Ethics</i> to the <i>Kindertotenlieder</i> songs of Gustav Mahler. They are all &#8220;ladders&#8221; of love in a certain sense, in that they attempt to reform the way we see love. And they are arranged in a dialectical or phenomenological manner, with each one identified as (in Nussbaum&#8217;s eyes) responding to the inadequacies of the view before it, and in that respect providing a more adequate view. Such an attempt at dialectical progress is close to the way Wilber understands his project as well, and to the Chinese Buddhist idea of <i>pan jiao</i> 判教  (classification of the teachings) as I understand it. <a href="#*"><sup>*</sup></a></p>
<p>So far Nussbaum&#8217;s text sounds itself like a ladder of sorts. However, the order in which Nussbaum ranks these views is unusual for a philosophical ladder. She begins with Plato and Spinoza as the most inadequate positions, going through Augustine, finding herself after a while in Walt Whitman and ultimately in James Joyce. Why? Because Plato tries too hard to ascend above love&#8217;s imperfections; his love is too far removed from the world. Joyce&#8217;s <a href="http://www.online-literature.com/james_joyce/ulysses/">Ulysses</a>, on the other hand, takes us <i>down</i> the ladder, lovingly embracing the world with all its imperfections. Likewise in her previous work <i>Love&#8217;s Knowledge</i>, Nussbaum had described her vision of an ideal transcendence as a &#8220;transcending by <i>descent</i>&#8221; (379, italics hers). [EDIT, June 17: part of this paragraph was missing when I first made this post yesterday.]</p>
<p>It would be too simple to describe Wilber as an ascent thinker and Nussbaum as descent; both see value in the two different sides and want to incorporate both. (For a pure ascent tradition we might do better with the <a href="http://www.arlingtoncenter.org/yogasutra.html">Yoga Sūtras</a> or the Jains&#8217; Tattvārtha Sūtra; for a pure descent we might look to pragmatism or to Paul and Patricia Churchland.) But I think it&#8217;s useful to juxtapose the two because they both use the language of ascent and descent while taking quite different positions on it.  </p>
<p>The ascent-descent distinction particularly interests me because of the way it can interact with other distinctions I have used to classify philosophies, especially Thomas Kasulis&#8217;s aforementioned distinction between <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/intimacy-and-integrity/">intimacy and integrity</a>. What&#8217;s always struck me about the integrity-intimacy distinction is that the integrity side captures something in common between two very different kinds of philosophies: ancient Indian views like the Yoga Sūtras in which the human subject aims to abide in a pure transcendental aloneness, and modern individualist philosophies of which <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand">Ayn Rand</a>&#8217;s is perhaps the epitome, in which the rational individual aims for mastery of the material world. There&#8217;s even a certain rough correspondence here with the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/12/the-three-basic-ways-of-life/">three ways of life</a> classification I&#8217;ve employed before: &#8220;asceticism&#8221; is integrity ascent, &#8220;libertinism&#8221; is integrity descent, and &#8220;traditionalism&#8221; is intimacy.</p>
<p>But could the distinction be pushed further, so that intimacy too is divided between ascent and descent? I suspect that it can. As luck would have it, on my way to India where I was to have these thoughts, I was accosted in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_International_Airport">LAX</a> by a group of airport <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Society_for_Krishna_Consciousness">Hare Krishnas</a>. When I told them (perhaps inadvisably) that I knew Sanskrit, they pushed very hard for me to take a copy of their teacher <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._C._Bhaktivedanta_Swami_Prabhupada">Prabhupada</a>&#8217;s commentary on the Bhagavad Gītā. I read some of the introduction on the plane, and it stayed with me. As I thought through these categories, I realized: Prabhupada&#8217;s thought is the perfect example of intimacy ascent. </p>
<p>Prabhupada follows in the <a href="http://www.gaudiya.com/">Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava</a> tradition of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_Mahaprabhu">Caitanya</a>, according to which the purpose of human life is to abide in the love of the god Krishna. Prabhupada makes it clear that this love is far superior to any merely human love, which is impermanent and will fade &#8211; the ideas of an ascent tradition &#8211; while at the same time arguing for a radically dependent view of human beings, according to which human beings can never be viewed as solitary or independent (in the way that Rand and the Yoga Sūtras both do). But rather than depending on each other, as we do in Nussbaum&#8217;s thought, we depend on a higher, eternal being. Here intimacy is an ascent. (I suppose Augustine&#8217;s view, which Nussbaum also sees as inadequate, is of a very similar kind.) Nussbaum&#8217;s thought, on the other hand, takes us to an intimacy by descent &#8211; as does Alasdair MacIntyre&#8217;s world of &#8220;dependent rational animals,&#8221; and the relationship-centred world of Confucius.</p>
<p>Two axes, then, to classify philosophies (both theoretical and practical): a vertical axis of ascent and descent, and we might also say a horizontal axis of intimacy and integrity. How robust is it, how well does it work? I&#8217;m not sure yet. But it seems like a good start.</p>
<p><a id="*">*</a> I&#8217;m trying to begin learning Chinese characters, and how to produce them online. Please, any readers who know Chinese, correct me when I do this wrongly in this post or any other &#8211; as I&#8217;m sure will happen along the way.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a happy and somewhat surprising move, the New York Times has introduced The Stone, a column in philosophy. Happier still, it&#8217;s written by someone other than regular NYT writer Stanley Fish, who too often seems to be a hater of wisdom. The inaugural column is instead written by New School philosopher Simon Critchley, who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a happy and somewhat surprising move, the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/">New York Times</a> has introduced <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-stone/">The Stone</a>, a column in philosophy. Happier still, it&#8217;s written by someone other than regular NYT writer <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/01/why-worry-about-contradictions/">Stanley Fish</a>, who too often seems to be a hater of wisdom. The <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/what-is-a-philosopher/">inaugural column</a> is instead written by New School philosopher <a href="http://www.newschool.edu/NSSR/faculty.aspx?id=10262&#038;DeptFilter=NSSR+Philosophy/">Simon Critchley</a>, who gives us a thoughtful and interesting meditation on what a philosopher is.</p>
<p>Riffing on a &#8220;digression&#8221; in Plato&#8217;s <a href="http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/plato_theaetetus.htm">Theaetetus</a>, Critchley comes up with a creative definition: the philosopher is one who takes time. Plato&#8217;s Socrates contrasts such a philosopher to the lawyer, the &#8220;pettifogger,&#8221; the specialist &#8211; for whom time is money, for whom a result must be reached quickly. It is likely not a coincidence that Socrates made his living from stonecutting, not from philosophy. The &#8220;digression&#8221; is introduced when Socrates&#8217;s interlocutor asks &#8220;Aren&#8217;t we at leisure?&#8221; and Socrates replies &#8220;It appears we are.&#8221; The pettifogger asks &#8220;What do I need to know right now, for this practical purpose?&#8221; The philosopher explores the bigger picture, takes the leisure to explore at length.</p>
<p>This picture of the philosopher seems to describe Socrates very well &#8211; or the monastic philosophers like Buddhaghosa or ??ntideva or Aquinas, who were charged to spend their lives in contemplation, and were fed and clothed and housed for doing so. It might even describe the tenured research-university philosophy professors of the 20th century, who had a guaranteed income for life as long as they showed up to teach a few classes and refrained from having sex with their students.</p>
<p>But what a different world faces the young man or woman who dreams of being a philosopher today! <span id="more-1230"></span> Our elders and betters tell us incessantly: figure out what you love, and then find a way to make money from it. And with the exception of a few (very, very rare) independent philosophers like Ken Wilber, to make money from philosophy is to be a philosophy professor. And those who aspire to be philosophy professors today epitomize a <i>lack</i> of time.</p>
<p><a href="http://gonepublic.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/nyts-new-blog-on-philosophy-and-the-philosophers-leisure-of-time/">Noelle McAfee notes</a>: &#8220;the academic system robs even we supposedly otherwordly philosophers of the leisure of time. There is a constant pressure to rush through things to get things done.&#8221; I wouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;even&#8221; us philosophers; rather, <i>especially</i> us philosophers, for whom the academic job situation is so dire. In graduate school and as a junior professor, there is a constant sense that every moment you spend at leisure could rob you of your only chance to ever get that semi-mythical leisured state of tenure &#8211; a state which the majority of current PhD candidates in philosophy and religious studies <i>will never have</i>. (If you&#8217;re unfamiliar with the apocalyptic state of the academic job market in the humanities, see <a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/12/17/mla">here</a> and <a href="http://philosophysmoker.blogspot.com/2010/03/lets-get-real.html">here</a> for a primer on the current situation; and see the acute analyses of <a href="http://howtheuniversityworks.com/wordpress/">Marc Bousquet</a> if you would like to think it&#8217;s ever going to get significantly better.) McAfee tries to address the situation with the stopgap time-management measure of taking 20 minutes for every professional task she undertakes, thus creating a minimal amount of leisure for each task. Within the unfortunate position of the junior academic, that may be the best you can do. But it&#8217;s not very much. When you are teaching four courses a semester and struggling desperately to simultaneously publish articles in the knowledge that you&#8217;ll never get tenure without them, the idea that you can have any &#8220;leisure&#8221; is entirely implausible, no matter how you arrange your time.</p>
<p>Instead, if one is really to live the leisured philosophical life that Socrates and Critchley speak of, why not seek leisure in the more conventional sense? If we fight to hold on to the imperilled work schedule our grandparents fought so hard to get &#8211; a 35-40 hour week, with sick days and a few weeks a year of paid vacation (much more than this if we live in Europe) &#8211; and we don&#8217;t have children, we can have genuine leisure time, genuine <i>spare</i> time in which we can think about philosophy at a slow, leisurely, <i>thoughtful</i> pace. Such a job is the complete antithesis of the academic philosophy career track. Which is to say that one can best be a philosopher in Plato&#8217;s or Critchley&#8217;s sense if one has a completely unphilosophical job. </p>
<p>It seems to me, then, that a young person can most truly be a philosopher today if &#8211; like Socrates and <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/the-first-philosophy-blogger/">Spinoza</a> &#8211; she does not try to make of philosophy a profession. For them, philosophy was <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/neither-career-nor-hobby/">neither career nor hobby</a>. For them, as for the nearly-extinct tenured professor, philosophy was genuine leisure. Their path seems the surest route for the aspiring young philosopher now.</p>
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