How do you depict a perfect being? The Jewish and Islamic answer is pretty clear: you can’t. From Exodus onward, idolatry is considered a sin. In the Ten Commandments the God of Exodus tells his subjects not to bow down before idols of anything on heaven or earth, for he is a jealous God – and, the implication is, all these things in his creation are different from him. Muslim tradition becomes much more explicit on the point. Islam’s cardinal sin is widely considered to be shirk: the association of any partners with God, saying that anything worldly – such as a drawing or statue of God – shares God’s attributes. Protestants have tended to follow the Jewish and Muslim lead. Catholics have been a bit more slack about it, but still accept the basic principle through fine distinctions, saying they don’t worship images, but merely venerate them; even for them, it’s understood that there’s a fine line they’re walking, something a little suspicious about depicting God that needs to be defended.
No such suspicion is found in India. I was struck recently by the climax of the Bhagavad Gītā. The god Krishna explains to the hero Arjuna what he needs to do, and explains his own divine nature as lord of the universe. Then, Arjuna asks to see Krishna’s true form – and Krishna agrees to show him. Arjuna can’t see it with mere human eyes; but Krishna grants him a “divine eye,” which has no such problems.
The form Arjuna sees is clearly divine – not like the God of a Renaissance painting, who could be mistaken for a bearded old human if you didn’t know the context. But when Arjuna sees that form, he really sees it – he sees God just as God is. I think this represents a very different conception of divinity in India – divinity as divinity can be seen.
Krishna’s divine form is infinite, extending in all the directions – but with infinite numbers of eyes seeing everything, infinite numbers of mouths swallowing the dead as they go to their fates, infinite crowns on his infinite heads. This divinity is physical, visible, even tangible.
What does this mean for thoughts of a God as structuring the universe, a First Explanation with metaphysical significance for the way we understand the rest of the world? YHWH precedes the physical world, stands in some sense outside it, describing himself only as “I am that I am.” Krishna, on the other hand, seems a much more physical God, a part of the world itself, a creator of standing in some sense equal with his creation. I haven’t quite figured out what the implications are of all this. But I suspect they’re important.
skholiast said:
Great post, Amod. I had some thoughts in response which got out of hand… (too long for a comment.)
michael reidy said:
A modern Indian guru has said of the three stages of enlightenment – “First you are in the Light. Then the Light is in you. Finally, you are the Light, and the Light is everywhere.”. Lux perpetua luceat eis.
The first stage of seeing the light is via the ‘ishta devata’ , the light is reflected from the forms that are peculiar to your tradition. The devotee puts himself in the presence, he takes the darshan or he has the darshan (vision) of the chosen form. He sees and is seen by this form. There is an irradiation by those particular energies. Spiritual progress is marked by a subtilising of the forms up to the point of a formless (nirguna) realisation.
(from The Living Flame of Love by St.John of the Cross)
skholiast said:
Michael, re. these three stages, I would compare: “then I shall know, even as I am known.”
Amod, the revelation to Arjuna reminds me of that of Zeus to Semele; except that Semele did not get a “divine eye,” and Zeus was obliged to salvage the unborn Dionysus (sewing him into his thigh) when she was obliterated by the glory. (In earlier versions it seems likely that Semele was herself a goddess and some speculate that this story encodes one episode of the rise of patriarchy). There’s a great deal more to all this, of course, and I don’t mean to get swamped by comparativism, but I do note that this story is why Dionysus is called Twice-Born, just as Jesus warns “you must be born again” [or: “from above”], and just as the upper varnas are called.
JOHN LERCH said:
I DIED AT 17,HAD A TRIAL,SATANS THE PROSACUTING ATTORNEY,JESUS THE JUDGE,AT THE END JESUS SAID “FATHER SPARE THIS ONE”.AND I SAW GODS TRUE FORM.WHICH IS A 3 NUCLEI GIANT SPIRITUAL CELL.HIS OUTER CELL WALL IS CLOUDY WHITE LIGHT,WHICH HAS DICERNABLE AFFECT(ANGER AT ME),AND AGAIN THREE LIGHTS .EACH EQUAL DISTANT FROM CENTER AND EACH OTHER.2 ON TO 1 ON THE BOTTOM.IF YOU WERE TO DRAW A LINE BETWEEN THEM THEY WOULD BE IN THE CORNERS OF AN UPSIDEDOWN ISOCSILIES TRIANGLE.THE INNER 3 LIGHTS HAD NO DISCERNABLE AFECT OTHER THAN THEY SEEMED TO BE WATCHING ME.FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE 3 LIGHTS A BALL OF LIGHT CAME TOWARDS ME AND INGULFED ME,AND I WAS BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE.
Amod Lele said:
An interesting account, John. The question about such experiences is, how do we know that what we are seeing is really God?
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Charlie Wilson said:
Hinduism is a cool religion that is also oriented towards peace and prosperity.*,,