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It’s often said that “individualism” is an invention of the modern West – meaning the approach that defines human beings as independent and autonomous from their social context. The French sociologist Louis Dumont made this claim directly in contrast to India, seeing India as a highly communitarian place where an individual’s community and social status much more. Dumont applied this communitarian view not only to Indian society at large but to its theoretical thought.
Many students of other cultures soon come to see individualism as a Western conceit – a bizarre peculiarity of an eccentric society that went wrong with Descartes. If indeed the modern West is a complete solitary exception to the rule, then there would seem to be something to this view.
I wrestled with it for a while myself. I used to believe Dumont’s classification of India was correct. It certainly resonated with my personal experiences, seeing how much more my Indian family cared about family and community ties. But those experiences, combined with the communitarian stereotype of India found in the likes of Dumont and Max Weber, blinded me to things I read every day in graduate school for years without actually noticing.
For classical Indian thought – Buddhist, Jain and brahmanical – is a very different beast from everyday Indian society, ancient or modern. I’ve addressed this topic a number of times before, but I can’t stress it enough because the point is so often ignored: classical Indian thought, by and large, places its highest value on the autonomous individual. The classical Indian individual is not the same as the modern Western individual, for the classical Indian individual achieves his freedom (and it usually is a he) by transcending the world rather than within it; it is an individualism of ascent rather than descent. But individualism it nevertheless is. In the Yoga Sūtras and Jain texts like the Tattvārtha Sūtra, the ideal is to break free of all dependence and achieve kaivalya, literally aloneness. Some variant on this ideal is found in nearly all classical Indian thought – even the other-oriented Mahāyāna Buddhism, where one encourages others to depend on oneself but aims to avoid all dependence on them.
The social expression of Indian independence is the renouncer, or monk (bhikkhu, sannyāsin), who cuts all ties to family and the wider world and lives a life single-mindedly devoted to the pursuit of liberation. The figure of the monk is what is missed in many accounts that exaggerate the difference between modern individualism and premodern communitarianism. We often assume that it is the capitalist money economy that allows people to consider themselves autonomous individuals, free of the ties of family and community. But monks were freeing themselves in the same way a long time ago. All this is why I continue to find Thomas Kasulis’s intimacy-integrity distinction a far more powerful classification of philosophies than most: it allows us to grasp the way in which modern individualism has historical precedent outside the modern West.
Now studies of monasticism will often claim that Indian monks were not nearly as independent as they proclaimed themselves to be. For after all, they lived on food provided by the community outside the monastery. An old article by Stanley Tambiah compared Indian monks negatively to the Benedictine Christian monks who (like East Asian Ch’an monks) did agricultural work and made their communities self-sufficient. Whereas for Indian Buddhist monks,
work as such was not valued, and its negation meant the monks’ complete material dependence on the laity for the provision of food, clothing, and shelter. Thus the Buddhist renouncer’s material dependence on the laity, specified from the beginning, cuts into his existence as ‘individual-outside-society’ in important ways.
But this understanding – monk as dependent on the lay community – is not how the Indian renouncer traditions understood themselves. Of course the monks received the food they ate from the community and would have died if they did not. That sure sounds like dependence. But is it? Or at least, is that how they understood it?
The pioneering work of Maria Heim (née Hibbets) on gifts in India is important in this regard. Heim points out that classical and medieval Indian texts, whether Buddhist, Jain or “Hindu”, drew a sharp distinction between compassionate gifts to the needy, on one hand, and “upward” gifts of esteem (śraddhā) on the other. The latter kind of gifts – of which the paradigm is the food given to monks – are not supposed to be given for the sake of benefitting the recipient, but the giver; indeed, there are stories (whether true or not) told of kings fighting over the right to give such gifts. Why? It’s both assumed and stated that these upward gifts will produce large amounts of good karma; but as I noted recently, even in the old texts good karma is not merely about producing a better rebirth in the next life, but about good effects in this one. And the texts regularly sing the praises of esteem – of having the attitude of reverence toward monks that leads one to admire them and listen closely to their teachings, an attitude expressed in giving them gifts.
All this is to say that according to the kind of understanding expressed in Indian texts, monks’ “alms rounds” are not begging and should not be understood as such; they are not understood as opportunities for monks to get the food they need, but for laypeople to develop the esteem they need. We saw last week that despite their obtaining food from laypeople, the point remains for monks to be autonomous and independent; a monk who feels dependent on the laypeople is a bad monk.
But aren’t monks still placed in a condition of dependence regardless of their beliefs? Well, not necessarily. Their dependence on the laypeople is a conditional: if you don’t get food, you will die. But the trump card of the ideal monk is that even this outcome doesn’t matter to him much. The goal is to transcend all attachment, up to and including the attachment to life itself. One may note here the Jain ideal of sallekhanā – a voluntary fast unto death – or the Buddha’s repeated sacrifice of his life in the Jātaka stories of his previous lives. Take such an attitude of indifference (or even welcoming) to death, and one is no longer dependent even on those who keep one alive.
Ideally, then, Indian renouncers are not dependent on the community. Contrast this to the Western ideal of being independently self-supporting. Every “self-made” Westerner achieves a presumed autonomy only because others buy his products or services; and he must spend a great deal of time selling to them, because he needs their business so badly. And once he has made it he is dependent on others’ acceptance of his money and a government’s maintenance of the property system. By contrast the proper monk faces death with equanimity, and in that respect his independence is fuller and purer than that of any modern Westerner.
Thill said:
“But aren’t monks still placed in a condition of dependence regardless of their beliefs? Well, not necessarily. Their dependence on the laypeople is a conditional: if you don’t get food, you will die. But the trump card of the ideal monk is that even this outcome doesn’t matter to him much. The goal is to transcend all attachment, up to and including the attachment to life itself.”
The self-defeating nature, in the context of any attempt to practice it, of the ideal of total or absolute non-attachment destroys this form of monasticism. (Of course, there are alternative forms of monasticism not wedded to the self-defeating ideal of total detachment.)
If the goal is to “transcend all attachment”, then, logically, this should also include attachment to the ideal of non-attachment, i.e, it implies that one ought to transcend attachment to the ideal of non-attachment.
And this, in its turn, implies that one would no longer be attached to this form of monasticism!
Further, in terms of the analysis of non-attachment I gave in an earlier comment, this implies that one would not be committed to the pursuit of this form of monasticism.
Commitment involves all the accoutrement of attachment. Contrary to Krishna’s nonsense on “karma yoga”, there is no such thing as “non-attached commitment” to any course of action.
If I perform an action because, above all, it is my duty, I am betraying my attachment to my duty and to the moral principle which requires me to perform my duty above anything else.
Of course, I can perform an action because it is my duty and not because of considerations of self-interest or desire.
But it is a serious confusion to conflate the possibility of acting from motives other than selfish ones with the possibility of acting from “total non-attachment” or absence of attachment to anything.
The former notion makes sense, the latter does not.
Notice also that to lead a good life one must cultivate commitment (which involves attachment) to certain views, values, actions, practices, projects, etc.
Therefore, there is no place in a good life, worth the name, for any ideal of total non-attachment or absence of attachment to anything.
I don’t think it is psychologically feasible for a human being to cultivate total non-attachment except on pain of falling into a pathological condition.
Even if it is psychologically feasible, I fail to see any good in a condition of total non-attachment.
To say that someone is totally non-attached is to say that he or she doesn’t care about anything. How can this be any good?
At the root of the pursuit of the chimera of total detachment or non-attachment is an intense aversion to life and living.
That aversion is the real problem!
Thill said:
“Of course, I can perform an action because it is my duty and not because of considerations of self-interest or desire.”
I mean selfish desires. There is no voluntary or intentional action without some form of desire.
Also, from the fact that the pursuit of the ideal of total or absolute non-attachment, or absence of attachment to anything, is absurd, it does not follow that it is absurd to cultivate non-attachment to a particular object, person, condition, experience, etc.
The particular features of a specific case of attachment determine whether it is good or bad to have that attachment and whether one ought to sustain one’s attachment or cultivate non-attachment.
JimWilton said:
Amod, what you say seems right to me.
I remember reading a transcript of a talk by Tulku Urgyen, a well known and very highly respected teacher in the Barom Kagyu and Nyingma lineages. He was asked why he built his Nagi Gompa retreat center near Kathmandu. I believe that the Sixteenth Gyalwa Karmapa asked him to build it. But his answer was that he built it so that lay people would have a place to make gifts.
michael reidy said:
Have you ever noticed that there are people who like to give but not to receive. Being given anything annoys them even if they need it. Its an indication that their own giving is tainted. The distinction exists in Christianity between monks and friars, the one often with a vow of stability giving hospitality and the other wandering and mendicant receiving it.
Ethan Mills said:
I suspect that you’re right that there’s a big difference between the values of monastics (who, after all, wrote almost all classical Indian philosophy) and the values of the larger society, but this difference isn’t unique to India. People sometimes expect me to be an expert on Indian culture or religious practice because I study the philosophical traditions. The analogy I give is to imagine a person who read a lot of the works of Aquinas, Anselm, Ockham, etc., but had only visited a Catholic church a few times. There’s not necessarily as much connection as we think between a philosophical tradition and the larger culture of which it’s part.
Of course, there’s SOME connection. In the case of India I suppose the difference is that the philosophical traditions are a product of a part of the culture that’s actively trying to escape dependence on the rest of the culture. This isn’t so different from the rise of individualism in modern Europe. The rise of capitalism, the Reformation, and the scientific revolution created a group of people who were trying to escape dependence on the Church, Aristotelian science, and (a bit later) monarchical rule.
The big difference, I think, is that in India nobody ever expected EVERYBODY to be monks (at least not in this lifetime), whereas Enlightenment universalism created space for the idea that everyone should be independent. But I also wonder how seriously this idea has been taken by the majority of Western people. If we were all independent Hobbesians who only entered into relationships with others out of rational self-interest, society would be pretty dismal!
Konchog Dorje said:
Why do academics rely so heavily on texts and not so much on direct observations that at a moment’s glance would be much more informative? I am an American monk living in a Tibetan monastery in India. I have never in my life—and I am not young— experienced so little individualism and so much group-think.
Amod Lele said:
Welcome to the blog! You raise a good point. I think a lot will depend here on our definition of “individualism”. It seems to me that one can easily hold individualist values as part of groupthink – one calls to mind the scene in Monty Python’s Life of Brian where the mob cries out “Yes! Yes! We are all individuals!” The scene points to a contradiction between that individualist idea and the way it happens to be practised, but the idea itself is still individualist. (I’ve often thought that the idea of the forest-dwelling monk takes Indian individualism to a more logical extreme than does the monk in a monastery.)
Moreover, there are different kinds of individualist ideas as well. I don’t think the classical Indian individualism is about individual differences so much. The goal in the Yoga Sūtras is the same for everybody; but at the same time, it’s a goal of going off and establishing yourself as cosmically alone and separate from everyone else.
JimWilton said:
Which monastery? What lineage?
Ethan Mills said:
Good question. I can speak for myself and a few others in philosophy departments and say that the answer is simply that we’re more interested in philosophy than practice. This isn’t to say that philosophy doesn’t occur in present-day Buddhist or Hindu communities, or that we couldn’t learn from practitioners today. Maybe this is a prejudice of philosophy as an academic discipline, but philosophers these days are expected to concentrate on texts. It would be odd to have more than a few of citations of personal conversations or observations. I suspect it’s a little different in Religious Studies or Asian Studies, unless your interests are historical. If you study classical Indian texts (as I do), I don’t think you should assume that present-day practices illustrate what was going on in India over 1,000 years ago, or that commentaries that are popular today necessarily got the original text right.
Thill said:
Ethan: “philosophers these days are expected to concentrate on texts.”
To avoid getting bogged down in a morass of scholastic hairsplitting “textual interpretations”, they ought to be expected to concentrate on problems, whether the problems are genuine problems or pseudo-problems, and, if they are genuine problems, the lines of their solutions.
Here is a relevant excerpt from an interesting letter written by M O’C. Drury, Wittgenstein’s student and close friend, to a student of philosophy:
“Dear Luke,
I am interested to hear that you have been reading Bradley. Of all English philosophers I have found him the most stimulating. He constantly says things which make me pause and start thinking things out for myself – and that is the only value to be obtained from reading any philosopher.
Beware of “learned historicity”. For a student of philosophy, there is no more dangerous “by-pass meadow” than to get entangled in working out “what Kant really meant to say” etc. (You will remember that in Pilgrim’s Progress bye-pass meadow led to Castle Doubting and Giant Despair).” (Letters to a Student of Philosophy – II, Edited by Desmond Lee)
Ethan Mills said:
My only point was that if you’re going to publish in philosophy these days, you can’t get by with mostly citing personal interviews or observations. Instead of talking to practitioners today, there’s an emphasis on looking at texts – and of course the problems raised in those texts. Even the most problem centered analytic philosopher has to cite a bunch of stuff other problem centered analytic philosophers said in journals. Maybe the discipline *shouldn’t* be that way, but it is. I certainly didn’t mean to bring up that old debate about whether textual interpretation for its own sake is okay. I honestly don’t even remember what I thought about that issue.
Thill said:
The degree of group think and conformity, particularly on matters of religious belief, pursuit of private economic profit, and nationalism, in North America is quite alarming and in sharp contrast to the (delusive) notions of a society characterized by rabid individualism.
Thill said:
On the topic of gifts, it occurred to me that one must eschew a narrow focus on gifts of material goods and reflect on the issues and implications of giving gifts of “immaterial” goods such as knowledge and even experience (e.g., pleasure, enjoyment, etc).
When Sakka asked the Buddha “Among gifts, which is the best?”, the latter replied:
Sabbadanam dhammadanam jinati.
The gift of the Dhamma excels all gifts.
(Dhammapada, Verse 354)
Here, the Buddha deems the gift of a particular set of “teachings”, presumably embodying some forms of knowledge, as the highest gift.
One thinks of other similar types of excellent “immaterial” gifts, e.g., aesthetic enjoyment provided by a musical performance, etc.
JimWilton said:
Traditionally, the buddhist hierarchy of gifts ia (i) gift of dharma, (ii) gift of relief from fear (saving a life, healing the sick, etc. are examples), and (iv) material gifts (which would include any sensory experience).
In many cases I expect these categories might overlap.
Thill said:
What is a gift? What constitutes gift-giving action or practice?
I see an analogy between promising and gift-giving.
What constitutes promising is the speech act of promising, the performative utterance “I promise that…”.
In just the same way, what constitutes a gift is the donor saying that it is a gift, “Here is my gift…”, “This is my gift…”, “Take it as a gift from me….”, etc.
Thus, it is the donor’s utterance and intention which makes something a gift. The recipient’s attitude makes no difference to what constitutes a gift.
It is also a necessary condition of gift-giving that the donor has no
expectation of compensation for the gift.
“Here is my gift of a diamond ring for our wedding. Now, please pay $ 10, 000 back to me.” is not gift-giving, but selling.
“Here is my gift of a diamond ring for our wedding. Now, please transfer ownership of your Jaguar to me.” is not gift-giving, but barter.
“Here is my gift of land for you to build your house on. Don’t forget to approve my contract.” is not gift-giving, but bribery.
JimWilton said:
Thill, these are valid points. It is interesting to reflect on the extent to which generosity depends on attachment (or non-attachment). To state the obvious, it is not a gift to offer an old lady someone else’s eat on the bus. But it is generous to offer one’s own seat. No one owns seats on the bus (or they are commonly owned) — but there is a convention that possession is accorded deference — and that is sufficient to create the attachment necessary for a gift to be made.
The Buddhist ideal of surrender — or of traditional offering gifts to the lineage (many of which are in the form of mental gifts such as mandala offerings) or simple physical gifts such as butter lamps or offering bowls or tea or water) are entirely based on giving up — without the sense that the recipient needs the gift. These gifts, at least in their highest form, are made “without expecting anything in return and without hope of gaining merit”.
But the sense of giving as compassionate or bodhisattva activity is different. This activity is highly dependent on the recipient of the gift and the use of intelligence to understand what is helpful to the recipient. Is it helpful to give money to an alcoholic homeless man? Is it helpful to comfort a murderer on death row who is filled with resentment and has not yet come to terms with his crimes? What is clear is that, even for the aspiring bodhisattva, action motivated by self gain of one sort or another (enhancing reputation or seeking an implicit quid pro quo) distorts the gift and makes the generosity tainted. So, it is useful to practice generosity (even using mental forms such as mandala offerings) to develop the habit of recognizing and relinquishing attachment. This results in clearer seeing that allows the possibility of being effective in addressing the suffering of others.
Thill said:
Jim: “To state the obvious, it is not a gift to offer an old lady someone else’s eat on the bus. But it is generous to offer one’s own seat.”
This raises the issue of the nature of the relation, necessary to constitute a gift or gift-giving, between the donor and what he or she wants to offer as a gift to someone.
In order to count as a gift, must an object (assuming it is an object) be not merely in the possession of the donor, but also legitimately owned or acquired by her in the first place?
If I originally acquired by theft the object I want to offer as a gift, does this make it any less a gift to the recipient? Does it imply that the recipient has no obligation to consider it and treat it as a gift?
If Robin Hood steals a basket of bread from the well-fed Abdullah family and gives it as a gift to the starving Sam family, does this mean that it is not really a gift or that the Sam family ought not to treat it as such?
Why?
What’s ownership got to do with it?
Thill said:
The obvious answer is that gift-giving is also an act of transfer of ownership of an object to the recipient and that if I acquired an object by theft, I do not have any ownership rights over it and, therefore, have no right to transfer ownership of the object to the recipient.
This implies that the recipient cannot really claim that the gift is his or her possession.
Since it is a constitutive feature of a gift or gift-giving that the gift is the possession of the recipient (if it has been transferred to the recipient), it would follow that any object which does not meet this requirement is not a gift.
Hence, a stolen object is a “pseudo-gift” and not a real one.
It is clear from all this that legitimate ownership or possession, both initially by the donor and subsequently by the recipient, is a constitutive feature of a gift and the gift-giving practice.
JimWilton said:
This is the correct legal analysis (and the reason why some museums have had difficulty with gifts made that have questionable provenance — Nazi German artwork, for example)
However, I think that in this discussion we are using a broader definition of gift. That is why I used the analogy of giving up a bus seat.
There are many categories if gifts where ownership (itself a social and legal construct) is irrelevant. One could make a gift of one’s time to visit a sick person in the hospital or to volunteer for a charity. A university professor might decide on a career in philosophy or medicine not solely from a desire for social and professional recognition or for monetary compensation but because of a love of the art and science and a desire to share that with others. Those are just examples.
That is why I would suggest that attachment is a useful measure of the extent of a gift (at least viewed from the point of view of the giver — and what is given up as opposed to what is received).
This is not entirely satisfactory because it views generosity from the miser’s point of view. At a point giving becomes joy — and the attachment has been lessened until there is a pull toward generosity rather than a push against attachment. A university professor might find great joy in engaging with a student purely from the point of view of seeing the student come into his own in the field and not mind the imposition on his time.
Thill said:
Since relinquishing my ownership and possession of an object is a constitutive feature of gift-giving, one could argue that every act of gift-giving is an act of renunciation, and that, therefore, assuming that renunciation is a virtue, every act of gift-giving is virtuous or has a virtue.
Why wouldn’t giving the objects in one’s cherished possession as gifts to someone not count as an exercise in non-attachment par excellence?