In last week’s post I began responding to my friend Momin Malik, who had defended relativism against ideas of universal truth. Momin had argued for relativism based on the need for internal understanding: we need to understand others in terms that make sense to them. I agreed with this – noting that every universalism needs a theory of error, and one which understands others in those kinds of internal terms is the best one.
Momin responded that this was not possible: “An internalist theory of error would require the universalist to give credence to the internal dynamics of another system, which would violate its universalism.” But I don’t think this follows. One can understand the internal dynamics of another system well enough to see how it turns out to be unsatisfactory on its own terms. It is possible to supersede: to understand how a system makes sense on its own terms, and more – to find the incompletenesses in that system, the ways it needs to be transcended. This is MacIntyre’s point, as I discussed last time.
I consider myself a Hegelian because I believe, with Hegel, that one can go a step further than MacIntyre: one best develops a philosophy by trying as best one can to consider all competing accounts from within, and arrive at a position that supersedes – transcends and includes – them all. Unlike Hegel I would probably add “tentatively” and “one hopes” in here. As finite and non-omniscient human beings we always have the possibility of being wrong, of having missed something. But if we want to have a chance of discovering the truth, we need to try. I came at this position from another angle in discussing blind men and elephants two weeks ago. It is this sort of position, I think – whether Hegel’s more confident view, or my more cautious one – that combines a universalist theory of truth with an internalist theory of error.
Momin refers to such a position jokingly as the “Power Rangers theory of truth”: “that multiple perspectives have something to offer, and only when they combine do we achieve ultimate power (or truth, as the case may be).” (In describing it thus, Momin reveals himself to be younger than I am. Were he my age, he would have called it the Constructicon theory of truth.) He responds to it as follows:
Finding truth by distilling multiple perspectives is, I think, just another one of those multiple perspectives and hence would itself need to be distilled. If that makes sense. Or, put differently, it’s impossible to escape the trap of being perspective-dependent, and hence, impossible to achieve universal truth. After all, universal truth would need to be accepted by every internal perspective in order to truly be universal, and that’s never going to happen.
The problem with this approach is that it sets up a dichotomy between perspective and universal – and one which, again, rests on the assumption that universality implies neutrality. It leaves out the possibility of a universal perspective – a perspective that sees the truth in what all the others see. I grant that in practice we may not be able to reach such a perspective, as non-omniscient beings with finite lifespans. But it seems to me that ultimately such a perspective is the goal of cross-cultural inquiry, even if our reach always exceeds our grasp. It is not internally contradictory.
Recall that Momin’s argument for relativism rested on understanding other cultures, making sense of them internally. It seems to me that this making sense itself requires the ability to argue and judge rationally – and, above all, to do so across traditions and perspectives. If we are really making sense of a radically different perspective, we are not just seeing it in its own terms. We cannot, because we are always still ourselves; its own terms must be filtered through ours. If it remains radically other, we have not understood it. This is why Gadamer famously argues that understanding requires a “fusion of horizons”: to understand what another’s horizon means in its own terms requires that we translate it into ours. And that means that the reasoning in each alternative tradition must be made commensurable: they can no longer stand as separate worlds that will not meet, but are now placed open to argument and even refutation by the other. If we really understand the alternative position, we are allowing the possibility that it is right and we are wrong.
Now this understanding could be one-sided: it is not necessarily the case that anyone who holds the position will understand ours. This is why, as Momin has noted, no position is ever going to be accepted by everyone. But this – to be accepted by everyone – does not seem a legitimate criterion for universality. A universal truth is one that everyone should accept – should accept, that is, given appropriate reasoning from their own premises and assumptions. It is not one that everyone in fact does accept. I know of no universalists who have tried to claim the latter. Universal truth has few defenders more stalwart and classic than Plato; but even in Plato’s own defence of universal truth in the Republic, the relativist Thrasymachus never agrees to Plato’s view. Thrasymachus has lost the argument, but he simply refuses to accept the consequences; he has agreed to all the premises but not to the logically entailed conclusion that Socrates puts forward. And so he now stands outside of reason. With someone who refuses to listen to reason entirely, Plato’s approach is not to offer further argument but simply to show how repugnant such a position is to just about all of his listeners, a position where the strong rule the weak. The argument turns, in other words, to performative dimensions, and is now aimed at those other than Thrasymachus who will still accept some sort of reason. The key point here: Thrasymachus’s lack of assent to the position does not detract from its universality – assuming, as Plato does, that Thrasymachus has in fact lost the argument. Effectively, Thrasymachus knows he’s wrong, he just won’t admit it. But that lack of acceptance does not detract from the claimed universality of the philosophy.
Not everybody gets to the point that Thrasymachus does, of course. Most people go to their graves convinced in varying degrees of the rightness of their own view, different from everyone else’s. But this is also not a point against universality. Any truly universal truth is going to be so nuanced and subtle that getting to it is going to be the result of long and difficult arguments, for which most people do not have the patience. Such a truth will require, in other words, that one understand it, in the Gadamerian sense described above, and such understanding requires more time and effort than most people are willing to put in. But a lack of understanding doesn’t make that truth any less true. The claim of universal truth is that, if people had both the time, energy and patience to follow the arguments where they lead (which most do not) and the intellectual honesty to accept the conclusions of the arguments (which many, like Thrasymachus, do not), then they would accept the truth and its universality. That most people lack either of these qualifications says nothing about universal truth.
Thill said:
Understanding must not be conflated with justification. The procedures of understanding and the procedures of justification are not identical.
The issue of why Pol Pot did what he did must not be conflated with the issue of whether what he did was rational or morally justified.
If I understand that Pol Pot gave reasons x, y, and z to support his pogrom, then, assuming that he was truthful, I can say that I understand why Pol Pot organized that pogrom.
But, obviously, it does not follow that Pol Pot was rational or morally justified in organizing his pogrom.
If the “cultural relativism” discussed in this post is the thesis that in order to understand the voluntary actions of persons we must understand their reasons for those actions, then it is not reasonable to disagree with it.
However, I don’t see what it has to do with “culture” or “relativism”. This procedure for understanding voluntary actions applies universally to all persons regardless of their cultural situation!
If the “cultural relativism” in question is a thesis about justification and holds that an agent’s own reasons for belief or action X is what justifies that belief or action, and, that, therefore in order to understand whether a belief or action is justified we must accept the agent’s own reasons for that holding that belief or performing that action, then it is clearly false.
And again, I don’t see what this has to do with “culture” or “relativism” since it applies to all persons regardless of their cultural situation!
“Naive subjectivism” may be an appropriate label for the view in question.
Thill said:
“If the “cultural relativism” discussed in this post is the thesis that in order to understand the voluntary actions of persons we must understand their reasons for those actions, then it is not reasonable to disagree with it.”
However, I must note that I can certainly understand the basic nature of many voluntary actions without recourse to the reasons the agent had for doing it.
For instance, I can distinguish between consensual sexual behavior and sexual assault without recourse to the reasons of the agent(s).
Both consensual sexual behavior and sexual assault have obvious characteristics and all we need to do is to pay attention to them.
To recognize consensual sexual behavior or sexual assault, we don’t need recourse to the reasons of the participants or the perpetrator.
Thill said:
The reasons an agent offers for his belief or action serve as his justifications of that belief or action. Therefore, in understanding an agent’s reasons for his belief or action, I am understanding his justification for that belief or action.
But his justification may not be good or successful. His reasons may fail to support his belief or action, or the reasons may themselves be false beliefs.
Whether his reasons support his belief or action and whether his reasons are true or false beliefs are issues of logic and fact.
And I don’t know what it means to claim that logical relations and facts are “relative to culture”.
Thill said:
I suspect that a form of the “genetic” fallacy is an essential element of any “argument” for cultural or social relativism:
X, a norm, originated in culture Z.
Therefore, X is applicable only within, and to, culture Z.
Needless to say, the conclusion does not follow from the premise.
But is it supported by the premise?
No. This is because the the ideal or norm, say equality or human rights, is a corrective to a set or category of abuses perpetrated on human beings. Hence, it is applicable to all societies in which those abuses occur.
Thill said:
Rationality is not merely a function of having reasons for a belief or action. It is a function of having GOOD REASONS for a belief or action, reasons which are true, or plausible, or highly probable, and which imply or strongly support the belief or action.
If this is understood, then we can avoid the fallacy of concluding that a person must be rational merely on the grounds that the person has reasons for her belief or action.
Thus, given the fact that Pol Pot’s reasons were either absurd beliefs and/or failed to support his pogrom, the following two claims are mutually consistent and true:
1. Pol Pot had reasons for organizing his pogrom.
2. Pol Pot was crazy, i.e., extremely irrational, in organizing his pogrom.
Thill said:
It is absurd to deny that there are universal truths, i.e., claims which are true at all times and places.
If there are no universal truths, we cannot even speak coherently of “relative truths”, i.e., claims which are true only at a given time and/or place.
A universal truth is entailed by every relative truth! Therefore, it is incoherent to assert that there is only relative truth, but no universal truth.
If a cultural relativist claims that “P is relatively true”, then she is implying that it is universally true, true at all times and places, that “P is relatively true”!
Hence, cultural relativism is incoherent.
Thill said:
The case of James Holmes, the latest addition to the American pantheon of mass murderers, is yet another example showing that “education”, academic accomplishments, deliberation, planning, having reasons, etc., are all entirely consistent with psychopathology or extreme irrationality.
Hence, the mere fact that a person has reasons for a belief or action does not tell us that the belief or action is rational, or that the person is rational, or even sane.