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David Meskill asked an important question in response to my coming out as gender-fluid. He asks:
I’m curious about how your personal transformation might relate to your interest in traditional wisdom. Has it affected your views of tradition? Have those views informed your transformation in any way?
I said a bit in response to his comment (and in the previous post itself), but I’d like to expand on it here. (David is correct in thinking I have addressed the question somewhat in earlier posts; I will link to many of those here in this post.) As I noted in the previous post, my conviction that gender identity does not have to correspond to biological sex is deeply informed by qualitative individualism, which is a largely modern movement, though (like nearly every modern movement) it is one with premodern roots. But I do think it’s important to understand our philosophies historically and even understand ourselves as belonging rationally to a tradition, and I think there is a great deal to be found in premodern traditions that is lacking in more modern ones (such as Marxism). I am willing to characterize my relationship to Buddhism, especially, as one of faith. So how does all of this fit together?
I’ll first expand on my point from the comment: it helps a lot, in this regard, to be a Buddhist. This is not at all to say that premodern Buddhist tradition was in sympathy with modern views about gender; it wasn’t. The vinaya (monastic rules) is quite explicit about excluding people we would classify as gay, trans or otherwise queer, and gratuitously imposes extra burdens on female monks that are not imposed on the male ones.
But there is something surprisingly empowering in that very gratuitousness. That is: as far as I can tell, there isn’t anything intrinsic to classical Buddhist philosophical systems that would require the enforcement of gender norms. Within vinaya in particular, the justification made for most of the rules is pragmatic and social: monks behaved in ways that were socially disapproved, this harmed the prestige of the saṅgha, and therefore the Buddha instructed the monks not to do that. And, there is no doubt that the historical Buddha lived in, and that the vinaya was composed in, a deeply sexist, patriarchal and sex-segregated society. So treating men and women as equals, or allowing in people who cross that binary, would have hurt the saṅgha’s reputation and thus driven people away from it – and from liberation. But of course, if social reputation is the reason for the vinaya’s traditional sexism (which I think it is, though that’s disputed), then in a modern context that’s reason to include queer people and to treat women with equality, for far greater social shaming now falls upon organizations that aren’t so inclusive.
What there isn’t in classical Buddhism is any sense of complementarianism, any sense of biological sex as leading to naturally ordained normative ethical roles. This, I think, has to do with Buddhism’s relationship to reproduction: Buddhism is against family values, in a way that does not hold for many other premodern traditions. The book of Genesis declares “Male and female He created them”, and much else in the Abrahamic traditions attaches a sacredness to a natural process of reproduction, in which a human with a functioning vagina and one with a functioning penis combine to produce new life. Reproduction is a core part of the sacred order that God created and is as it should be. All of this is part of a wider view that takes nature as normative, where the way the world does work is in some sense how it should work. (Confucians, I think, have a similar view in the concept of tiān 天: the ultimate normative order underlying the universe, which is often translated “nature” as well as “heaven”. Thus Mencius endorses a patriarchal division of labour as normal and natural.) But none of that is there in classical Indian Buddhism: nature is saṃsāra, and therefore a source of suffering, which you’re trying to get out of. (Thus, aesthetically, the Pure Land of the Shorter Sukhāvatīvyūha Sūtra is no pristine natural Eden, but glitters with gold and jewels and chimes.) So I see very little in classical Buddhist tradition that tells me not to express myself as female – though there is plenty to remind me that I shouldn’t get caught up in desiring pretty new outfits!
However, my Buddhism doesn’t get me off the hook here entirely. For while I do consider myself a Buddhist, I also consider myself an Aristotelian – and Aristotle, I think, has a much stronger sense of the normativity of nature. Our telos has its roots in our natures as human beings; thus Aristotle’s scientific works on physis have a significant connection to his ethics. And so he endorses a traditional patriarchal family structure, with household roles specified as different for mother and father (as his teacher Plato does not).
It is for that reason that I have spent some time exploring the premodern roots of qualitative individualism, in figures like Duns Scotus and Leibniz – for I think those figures help bring out a qualitative individualist element in Aristotelianism, one which I think is there at least latently. While remaining an Aristotelian, Duns Scotus helps us move our attention from the telos of human-beings-as-such to the telos of this human being, of me, of you – which is not very far from the qualitative individualist idea, central to the transgender movement, that we all should express a true self that can be repressed by social norms and expectations. (Ideas of a true self are of course in their own deep tension with Buddhism, but that’s a different question.)
The latter point, I hope, goes some way to answering more of David’s original comment, which focused in particular on the concept of identity and its modern provenance. David points out that in traditional societies one’s status was typically ascribed at birth (though being a monk was a major exception; in societies that allowed that, it was often something one could choose to do). “Modern identity has vastly expanded the choices available and made one’s identity – one’s choices and expressions of them – of central, often existential importance.” I think this statement is generally correct, and at the heart of qualitative individualism – but I would diminish the importance of choice per se, as often it is not so much you choose these key identities as that they choose you. Few people say “I chose to be trans”. It has been widely accepted for a while, I think, that while one can choose to act or not act on homosexual desire – just as one can on heterosexual desire – one has little choice as to whether one’s desires are homosexual, heterosexual or both. In many respects I would not even say that I “chose” to be a Buddhist; I only chose to call myself one.
But the point is: yes, modernity does allow much more room for individual self-expression, and that expression often comes out in terms of the self’s identity. And I think that in the transition from Aristotle through Duns Scotus and Leibniz to the likes of Herder and Humboldt and Goethe, we can find a way to ground such individual expressions within Aristotelianism.
Nathan said:
I commented on your previous post that some people have recently addressed me as a woman because my hair is long. In contrast, all or most Buddhist monastics shave their heads. Buddhist monastic head-shaving and dress have the effect of eliminating the most visible markers of gender (if not intentionally). This may have little everyday import for Buddhist laypeople, but as you pointed out, it provides a very different ideal from traditions that posit naturally normative gender differences.
A common factor that I have always seen between Buddhism and modern psychology is an emphasis on development over time. It’s not that there is no self at all, just that there is no fixed unchanging self. An important role for human choice, agency, control, etc., is in guiding, to whatever degree is possible, the process of change of self. I am puzzled about how to reconcile this view, which I consider to be true for many reasons, with the idea mentioned above of a “true self”, a term that to me suggests a fixed unchanging self. If self develops over time, and assumes different forms, which of the changing forms is the “true self”? A truer ideal than the “true self”, it seems to me, is not freedom to express some true self, but freedom to develop toward one’s full potential, whatever form it may take: the developing self, not the true self. I wonder if this is antithetical to your “qualitative individualism” or compatible with it?
Amod Lele said:
Thanks, Nathan. I haven’t probed this question in too much detail, but the reflection I have done comes to a place not too far from yours. That is, I see the qualitative-individualist “true self” as mutable, divisible and heteronomous, and at least to that extent compatible with a Buddhist view. I think a lot of QI perspectives treat the self as something narrative – I think of Nietzsche’s phrase “how one becomes what one is”, where the true self is something that emerges as a story over time. Such a narrative self would count (from a Sellarsian as well as a Buddhist point of view) as conventional rather than ultimate – and it matters here that Buddhist conventional truth is composed, above all, of narratives.
Nathan said:
Yes, I suppose one could define the “true self” so that it is equivalent to what I called the “developing self” above.
Speaking of Nietzsche, the philosopher Wolfgang Welsch commented on Nietzsche in a memorable lecture given in 2000 titled “Becoming Oneself” (available online). An excerpt from the start of Welsch’s talk:
“Becoming oneself—not finding one’s Self: Let me start out by explaining a preliminary decision. ‘Becoming oneself’—on my understanding—does not mean ‘finding one’s Self’. I want to speak about a process and a development, not about the discovery or realization of something pregiven. And I refer strictly to the reflexive pronoun ‘self’, not to the noun ‘the Self’. I do so for a simple reason: I mistrust the common philosophical substantivization of this pronoun, the step from the compounded ‘self’—as in ‘oneself’ or ‘ourselves’—to the absolute noun ‘the Self’. (I could never write a book about The Sources of the Self.)”
Welsch goes on to talk about Nietzsche (and quotes Nietzsche’s Ecce Homo: How One Becomes What One Is: “That one becomes what one is presupposes that one doesn’t have the remotest idea what one is”) and other philosophers but comes back to emphasize becoming oneself as “a process and a development”.
Most generally, I think of the self as a developing knowledge structure (as in the aptly titled chapter by psychologists John F. Kihlstrom & Stanley B. Klein, “The self as a knowledge structure”, in Wyer Jr., R.S. & Srull, T.K. (eds.), Handbook of Social Cognition, Hillsdale, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 1994, 153–208), a general definition that can encompass probably every theory and aspect of selfhood. Narrative is more specific, just one aspect or form of selfhood.
David Meskill said:
Thanks, Amod. Very interesting, as always. I particularly liked Simmel’s distinction between 18th century quantitative individualism and 19th/20th century qualitative individualism; your comments on Duns Scotus’s modifications of Aristotelian ideas about telos; and your and Nathan’s downplaying of choice and autonomy of a “true self.”
On this last point, you talk of the self as being “mutable, divisible, and heteronomous.” Have you done any reading in the literature on modularity of mind or the brain’s “two systems” (for example, Kahneman)? I think you said somewhere that you think philosophy should acknowledge the results of empirical studies, and so I’m curious if you’ve paid any attention to this work in psychology.
Nathan said:
“Dual process” or “two systems” theories (heuristic versus analytical, basically) are more about reasoning processes than about identity/selfhood. Moreover, there have been critiques of dual-process theories that suggest (and I agree) that dual-process theories served a useful heuristic purpose in psychology but are being superseded by more realistic theories. There are some good early critiques of dual-process theories in the commentaries to: Keith E. Stanovich & Richard F. West (2000), “Individual differences in reasoning: implications for the rationality debate?”, Behavioral and Brain Sciences, 23(5), 645–726. A recent article, by a philosopher of economics and cognitive science, that reviews much (but not all) of the more recent critical literature on dual-process theories is: James D. Grayot (2020), “Dual process theories in behavioral economics and neuroeconomics: a critical review”, Review of Philosophy and Psychology, 11(1), 105–136.
David Meskill said:
Thanks, Nathan. I wasn’t aware of those critiques.
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